Posted on 02/07/2026 4:48:50 AM PST by RandFan
@LibertyCappy
No one fights for freedom and the constitution better than Thomas Massie
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Nonsense. As I said the politicians do not miss the money, or the power, as they still receive their paychecks. The bureaucrats usally get back pay when the shutdown ends. The majority of the time, Republicans are blamed more often, about 90% as losers vs. 10% as winners, because the press cover the derrieres of the Democrats, and the Democrat supporters, are too supid to know the truth, and that apparently rings true even with those with college degrees. That success equates to more power for the Democrats as well.
Things stay hte same for teh duration, except for teh part that shuts down, and nobody is affected. Then the fraidy-cat RINOs get scared and make bad deals becuase people like you are so terrified of a shutdown.
There you go again, because nothing stays the same, snd you even alluded to it with the RINOs caving and giving the Democrats everything they ask for, and often times more than what they asked for. This all hurts the overtaxed citizens to dish out more money wasted, and higher debt accumulated.
Let’s keep it in shutdown mod until we get a good deal with real cuts and not some crappy Democrat Lite “deal” that is worse
You are either a hapless dreamer or you are delusional, and your wushes will never be realized, because RINOs are nothing more than controlled opposition. I honestly think that they are in reality, Democrats posing as Repuublicans.
All they have to do is outlast Trump while thwarting him atr every turn, and they win, and this nation is lost to the criminal enterprise that has control of this nation, and they will become avsolutely totlly corrupt and above the law.
They can't even get convictions against all of the theft we are seeing be exposed.
Do you ever really even pay attention?
Republicans were “blamed” for the 2013 shutdown and won the 2014 midterms.
More and more people are catching on.
Shutting down the government does no harm to anyone. But it reminds us that we can live perfectly fine without so much government. That’s why teh politicians of both parties hate them.
Without shutdowns, what to you propose? Better no deal than a bad deal.
Your only real concern is beating up on Massie becuase you were told to.
Whem is Massie going to subnmit his budget? I'm still waiting for him to do so after his 13+ years in Congress thus far.
Instead, Massie is a one trick pony, he's all about Epstein:
Thomas Massie is a U.S. Representative from Kentucky, known for his libertarian-leaning Republican stance and recent high-profile actions related to government transparency. He co-authored the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which compelled the release of documents tied to Jeffrey Epstein, and recently reviewed unredacted files at the Department of Justice alongside Rep. Ro Khanna. Thomas Massie is a U.S. Representative from Kentucky, known for his libertarian-leaning Republican stance and recent high-profile actions related to government transparency. He co-authored the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which compelled the release of documents tied to Jeffrey Epstein, and recently reviewed unredacted files at the Department of Justice alongside Rep. Ro Khanna.
Massie has called for Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, a close ally of President Trump, to resign due to Lutnick’s connections with Epstein. Massie emphasized that Lutnick “has a lot to answer for” and stated, “he should make life easier on the president, frankly, and just resign.”
Tensions between Massie and President Trump have escalated, particularly after Massie criticized Trump’s rhetoric and foreign policy moves, including military intervention in Venezuela. At a recent Kentucky GOP event, Massie was interrupted and had his microphone taken away, highlighting internal party conflict.
Massie has called for Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, a close ally of President Trump, to resign due to Lutnick’s connections with Epstein. Massie emphasized that Lutnick “has a lot to answer for” and stated, “he should make life easier on the president, frankly, and just resign.”
He's a joke, and you are too apparently because you put so much thought into Massie who is obsessed with Epstein.
Just as with trump, there reallt is no there, ther, other than Epstein didn't kill himself, he was the subjet of a hit, based upon speculation as to what he might have had on people f power. So, far that information has not been exposd. Most likely beause it doesn't exist at all, and never has.
There are far more important issues, but he has wasted precious time over BS. The mostinteresting revelations was Bill Gates getting infected with an STD. Earth shaddering, NOT!!! You can pray at the feet of your idol, because you too are most likely a Libertarisn, and that is why you support him so, but yopu can't poiont to a single accomplishment tht has meant muc for this nation. Even his Epstein obsession has produced nothing substantive.
Massie is a one trick pony, he's all about Epstein This is a blatant falsehood. I follow him online (along with many other members) and he's all about reducing government and reducing spending, restoring government to its constitutional limits, protecting separation of powers. To claim otherwise is ignorance, dishonesty, or both.
Why do you have a problem with transparency?
Your own posts show he is concerned about thigns other than Epstein. I suggest you read your own postings:
Massie criticized Trump’s rhetoric and foreign policy moves
You may agree with him or disagree with him. Please tell me what that has to do with Epstein, since you claim that's all Massie cares about.
He's a joke If oyu consider constitutionalism, strong limited government views, 91% party support, and grades in teh high 90s from most conservative rating services to be a "joke."
Your problem is that he doesn't just all in line on every single issue behind President Trump, no matter where President Trump might be wandering on that issue.
There are far more important issues Agreed, and Massie is on those issues.
You can pray at the feet of your idol Project much?
you too are most likely a Libertarisn No, and neither is Massie, totally, though he's probably the most libertarian member of Congress. I'm a constitutional conservative like him. But I don't sacrifice my principles for "loyalty," unlike you and a lot of others here. I'm sorry that upsets you.
yopu can't poiont to a single accomplishment tht has meant muc for this nation. Massie has introduced, sponsored or co-sponsored, and voted for plenty of bills you and I could gladly support. It's not his fault that the RINO Establishment leadership killed them. We need more like him, not fewer. We need fewer RINOs, not more. But keep plugging for those RINOs because President Trump keeps endorsing them.
Lately, he has been all about Epstein, the spending is an after thought that gets mentioned only when closing down the fgovernment becomes an issue. Thomas Massie spoke out against the actions of federal immigration agents following the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti, redaction of the Epstein files by the Department of Justice (DOJ), and he is more than willing to partner up with Ro Kahanna, even though Ro hs never brought up the Epstein isue previously.
Thomas Massis says he opposes big spending, foreign wars, and cover-ups involving sex traffickers. Trump & ICE have found more than any other presuident of children trafficked. What do reporters report, that Trump detention of children are 6 times higher than any previous president. When in fact these are children that have been found and are part of the 300,000 children that the Biden Administration let go with whomevrer claimed them, most being trafficers. Trump starts no wars, he ends them. Trump is not spending all of the money that was allocated, unless a court orders him to do so. With a Republican majority, why hasn't they made is easier for Trump to not speand all of the money, and return it to the Treasury?
The soy boi never acknowledges these moves taken by Trump, but he is quick to cut him to the bone at every possible opportunity, and he doesn't understand why Trump trashes him bacK? He's an idiot, but you hold him up as this great man.
Why do you have a problem with transparency?
I have no problem with transparency, however, dragging people though something when it is unclear exaclty what has been done regarding the Epstein case, which has been mostly driven by specculation. Would you like that happening to you, just because you knew someone, and saw them on several occasions, and even attended parties at their house, but you never did anything illegal? Do you think that is fair to you, to be associated as being a nefarious questionable scumbag person, by virtue of that association?
What are you so quick to see evil is all who associated with Epstein? Epstein seems to be a scumbage, and perhaps some of those who hung around him are also, but not all. He is a rich man who knows a lot of people, and there are those who feel more important because they are close to someone who is a mover/shaker in their eyes. Again, you do so because your idol has made you believe that there is a lot more to Epstein than there actually is. Viginia Giuffre was no angel, she was not forced to remain Epsteins sphere, she remained for the money, period. She even became a procurer for more girls, and made more money doing that too. That has been proven. She finally admitted that she made uup that she had slept with Prince Andrew. So, was this all dpne for these women to receive a big pay day from these wealthy men? Sort of like E. Jean Carroll who was awarded 3.3 million, which she has never gotten a penny, nor does she deserve that money, because it was all based on lies, and they changed the law in order to make it possible to bring the BS charges that had under the law expired years ago under the existing statue of limitations. This epstein started taking tking shape after the "Me Too' , all women must be believe, becaoiome a thing. What a prefect atmosphere for thse calims to be used.
Your own posts show he is concerned about thigns other than Epstein. I suggest you read your own postings: Massie criticized Trump’s rhetoric and foreign policy moves
Again, that is more BS that Thomas Massie engages in, and you left off the Venezuela word as well in what you posted that I said. The Venezuela was a well organized strike to take a narco-terrorist, Nicolás Maduro, who is responsible for killing mamy A,ericans via illegal drugs, especial Fentanyl. Again, that is not something he is doing, it is another way for him to attack Trump.
Apparently, like you, Thomas Massie doesn't realize that these are warfare like attacks upon this nation, maaking money is a bonus for that warfare waged against this nation. Both could use a brain, sadly enough because neither of you recognize that reality.
You must be an anti-Trump just like your idol Thomas Massie is. Both ou you are losers. Difference being he is a do nothing Congressman who only complains, and does whatever he can to thwart Trump at every turn. You are just supporting yet another Libertarian politician, who has run as a Republican, because Libertarians have a bad track record of getting elected. We voted in Trump, where he won the eectoral vote, along with the popular vote. Thus the people gave Trump a mandate. Massie 's mandate is coming from those who hate this nation, because it is evident that he supports their wants, more than he supports the the majority of the American citizenarry who provided Trump a clear mandate to do what he campaigned on.
You may agree with him or disagree with him. Please tell me what that has to do with Epstein, since you claim that's all Massie cares about.
As I said, I agree with him on the out-of-control spending. Epstein is nothing more thamn a distraction. He needs to focus on the real duty that the legislature is Constitutionally responsible for, which are the legisation & passing the budget for government spending.
I disagree with him on his Trump hatred, and the legal actions he takes regarding deporatation & bringing a murderous illegitimate foreigh president to face the indictment handed down by the Southern New York grand jury. I do not need Thomas Massie's opinion which is about as worthless as the opinion of any other never-Truumper or Hollowwood actor/actress or singer that are nothing but hate driven rhethoric that shows they hate, while claiming that they are about love.
He's a joke If oyu consider constitutionalism, strong limited government views, 91% party support, and grades in teh high 90s from most conservative rating services to be a "joke."
I already adressed that, but I will repeat it again for you:
That conservative rating is nothing more than opinion based. There really do not tell the entire picture, because he often strays from his Constittution role by providing his opinion of someone that he disagrees with. It is not his constitutional duty to provide his opinion regarding the president who was duly elected 3 times, but the middle one was stolen, and with the help from Republican politician's who thought it was their right to overrule what the people voted for. They all had to ignore the oath to defend & protect the Constitution, not their beliefs, anmd that goes for Massie as well.
yopu can't poiont to a single accomplishment tht has meant muc for this nation. Massie has introduced, sponsored or co-sponsored, and voted for plenty of bills you and I could gladly support. It's not his fault that the RINO Establishment leadership killed them. We need more like him, not fewer. We need fewer RINOs, not more. But keep plugging for those RINOs because President Trump keeps endorsing them.
Trump endorsed Thomas Massie previosly. But not anymore. So, by your own words that makes Massie a RINO also. Like the RINO he is, he knows when something will not pass, so he can vote the conservative vote. I have disagreed with some of Trump's endorsements, but often times the voters ignored his endorsements and voted in the person that provided no support for Trump. In Massie's case, it's people like you who are fooled about who he and others really are, which is never-Trumper RINOs first who have lots of opportunities to present themselves as being something else, and still many like you do not see the truth regardiong realize what these RINOs actuallyty are, controlled by, Democrats. opposition .
Aolso, you still haven't pointed to any of Thomas Massie's real accomplishments after 13 years of being in the U.S. Congressional House.
And President, via OMB (Executive Branch), submit a budget for Congress to consider. Again, it's not Massie's job.
it doesn't preclude Massie who is in the legislature to take a lead on the budget/spending issue
True, and he does so with his votes and by offering amendments. But he is not leadership, not Budget Committee, so he's not responsible for working up a budget, merely for voting on it like any other Member. And if he submitted one, your boy Johnson would simply sideline it.
Lately, he has been all about Epstein
False statement. He's been just as active on spending and budget issue, foreign policy issues, and the like. Just because you're laser focused on a single issue doesn't mean he is. You're simply regurgitating untrue statements you've been fed.
Thomas Massis says he opposes big spending, foreign wars, and cover-ups involving sex traffickers. Trump & ICE have found more than any other presuident of children trafficked.
Good, nobody has a problem with that, but again, they find plenty, then fail to include it in their legislation. And when they do, they bundle it in a so-called Omnibus or a CR with lots of Democrat crap in it. OBBB had a bunch of that. Massie couldn't vote for that.
Trump starts no wars, he ends them.
He took unilateral military action in Venezuela. That was an act of war. Fortunately, we had very few casualties. But CONGRESS declares war and the AUMF that all President use applied to Iraq; it wan't an unlimited Grant of authority.
Trump is not spending all of the money that was allocated, unless a court orders him to do so.
Congress just reauthorized the Biden spending levels. What, specifically, is Trump not spending? And by what authority?
With a Republican majority, why hasn't they made is easier for Trump to not speand all of the money, and return it to the Treasury?
Why can't he, and why would you want him to spend more?
The soy boi never acknowledges these moves taken by Trump, but he is quick to cut him to the bone at every possible opportunity
More of your falsehoods.
iI have no problem with transparency, however, dragging people though something when it is unclear exaclty what has been done regarding the Epstein case, which has been mostly driven by specculation.
Then let's get the files out UNREDACTED so we can get real information and end the speculation. Why would you have a problem with that?
What are you so quick to see evil is all who associated with Epstein?
I have said no such thing, but it is obvious that Epstein and Maxwell trafficked someone to someone, or we wouldn't have convicted them (especially considering Epstein was a Democrat, and probably still votes for them), and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
It appears you automatically disbelieve any and all of these women. Giuffre said she never saw Trump do anything wrong; was she lying then, or are you just selective about what you want to believe and what you don't want to believe, as the Democrats are?
they changed the law in order to make it possible to bring the BS charges that had under the law expired years ago under the existing statue of limitations.
True. It's how Democrats play the game. It also isn't relevant to this particular discussion; it has zero bearing on Massie. Please try to focus.
Massie criticized Trump’s rhetoric and foreign policy moves
Yes, and? You seem to think it's all about personal loyalty, following President Trump on every issue completely, no matter what he says or does. It isn't. It's about advancing principles.
Why does President Trump endorse RINOs like Lindsey Graham?
Thomas Massie doesn't realize that these are warfare like attacks
That's precisely why Massie's concern is. When we were attacked in 1941, FDR asked for and got a declaration of war the next day. Massie is asking the President to seek a Congressional declaration of war. You cna't just go around using force.
"America goes not forth searching for monsters to destroy." -- John Quincy Adams
Cuba and Iran seem to be teetering on the brink without the USA using force.
As I said, I agree with him on the out-of-control spending.
Yet both the OBBB & the CR increased or maintained the excessive spending.That just increases our debt.
We voted in Trump
Which doesn't empower him to just do anything he wants.
he is a do nothing Congressman who only complains, and does whatever he can to thwart Trump at every turn.
That's just nonsense. Nothing in his record supports that, but you'll double down on it because you' e been told it's so.
Massie 's mandate is coming from those who hate this nation, because it is evident that he supports their wants
You're being ridiculous. There eis literally nothing that supports you dumb claim.
I disagree with him on his Trump hatred
He hates Trump so much that he voted for him three times and married a woman who voted for him three times. You sound stupid when you say things like that.
That conservative rating is nothing more than opinion based.
It's based on his voting record.
that makes Massie a RINO
Incorrect. He is anything but. You seem to define RINO as anyone who doesn't slavishly follow whatever opinion President Trump happens to hold on any given issue on any given day. I don't. I define it by principles, policies, votes. If you're running around raising money for Lindsey Graham, you have no business calling your opponents RINOs.
people like you who are fooled about who he and others really are
No, quite the opposite.
Aolso, you still haven't pointed to any of Thomas Massie's real accomplishments after 13 years of being in the U.S. Congressional House.
What do you consider accomplishments? Massie has been essential in stopping a lot of bad laws, which is at least as important as passing good ones. And the good ones he's proposed have had bipartisan opposition that prevented him from getting them passed because of the get-along go-along types tou've spent all that space defending.
That is being done, but it is oftern ignored., so what is your point? The Prsident has no power for that budget reccomendation to even be considered. So, the president really has no real involvement in the budget creation. He is only required to submiot a budget, which is always done.
True, and he does so with his votes and by offering amendments. But he is not leadership, not Budget Committee, so he's not responsible for working up a budget, merely for voting on it like any other Member. And if he submitted one, your boy Johnson would simply sideline it.
He has a voice, and he could voice his objections that the Budget Committee must start producing a budget that lowere the spending. He could also lobby for him to be picked to be on the Budget Committee as well. Has he ever sasked for that consideration? But again, it has already been acknowledged by me that t, that issue is one I stand with him, but it's the only one, and there are other issues the come before him that I disagree with his votes. I disagree with a lot of the way Mike Johnson leads the House as Speaker. I think he is incredibly weak. But at least he does work with te President to deliver what Presidet Trump needs to make chnges. Again, Massie had the opportunity to throw his hat into the ring to obtain a leadership role, but he didn't, because it's easier tobe an ankle-biter than a real leader.
Massie has held significant committee assignments related to fiscal policy and government spending. In the 118th Congress (2023–2025), he served as Chairman of the Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, and Antitrust Subcommittee under the House Judiciary Committee. In the 119th Congress (2025–2027), he was assigned to the Committee on Judiciary, including the Constitution and Limited Government Subcommittee, and the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure.
So, can you point to his accomplishments within these Committes?
False statement. He's been just as active on spending and budget issue, foreign policy issues, and the like. Just because you're laser focused on a single issue doesn't mean he is. You're simply regurgitating untrue statements you've been fed.
Again, same answer as above, and I'll add agaIN that this only comes up when they want to shutdown the government. I have no one feeding me my opinions He is It's his word & actions that form my opinions. Do not try to project what you do, as being what I do to arrive at my opinions.
Good, nobody has a problem with that, but again, they find plenty, then fail to include it in their legislation. And when they do, they bundle it in a so-called Omnibus or a CR with lots of Democrat crap in it. OBBB had a bunch of that. Massie couldn't vote for that.
The they you are referring to, is the legislature, and yes they do because they refuse to do their job as I keep repeating over & over, because you make the same statement over & over, trying to show that you have an argument, which you do, but I have already laid the blame where it correctly lies, with the legislature.
OBBB had a bunch of that. Massie couldn't vote for that.
Present just some of those items, since you say is was a bunch, but again this boils down to the legislatuire not doing their job as defined in the Constitution.
Congress just reauthorized the Biden spending levels. What, specifically, is Trump not spending? And by what authority?
President Trump's team has offered rescissions to Congress.
Rescission Requests: President Trump submitted a rescissions package requesting Congress to immediately rescind funding for 22 previously approved items. This proposal is part of broader cost-cutting efforts led by Trump’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), which has already implemented funding cuts through executive actions like impoundments.
Congressional Process: Under special budget procedures, Congress must consider the president’s rescission request within 45 days of continuous session. If Congress does not pass a resolution approving the rescission within that timeframe, the funds must be made available for obligation. The process is designed to limit delays, including blocking the use of the Senate filibuster.
/ Political Context: Some members of Congress from both parties have quietly resisted these efforts, viewing them as an overreach of executive power. A recent funding law included measures aimed at reinforcing Congress’s control over appropriations, signaling pushback against Trump's unilateral spending changes.
Then there are tariff revenues that offset spending: Customs duties surged after widespread tariffs took effect in early 2025, with monthly collections rising from $7 billion in January to over $30 billion by September. U.S. Customs and Border Protection reported collecting more than $200 billion between January 20 and December 15, 2025, attributing the record haul to over 40 executive orders.
Lastly there are investments being made by foreign concerns to build factories that bring jobs & factories back to the U.S. to rediuce our dependencies upon foreign nations like China that could have and could rock our world n a negative manner. They do this to avoid the tariffs.
Then let's get the files out UNREDACTED so we can get real information and end the speculation. Why would you have a problem with that?
Already discussed. There have been no formal charges against these people to out them publicly. Besides that Ro Kahanna just released a buinch of names. Why is Ro Kahana now releasing these names? Massie knows the names as well because he has access to the unredacted Epstein documents. Let him speak out, and perhaps he may just get a lawsuit leveled at him for defamation.
He took unilateral military action in Venezuela. That was an act of war. Fortunately, we had very few casualties. But CONGRESS declares war and the AUMF that all President use applied to Iraq; it wan't an unlimited Grant of authority.
It was a brilliant show of force that successfully removed a criminal who has been responsible for the deaths of of millions of Americans via drug overdose.. As I said before you & MNassie are troo gnorant to recognize when this nation is at war, just becase they are not using their military to wage that wasr.. they use drugs, tariffs, and uinfair trading practices to provide a million cuts that have totally eviscerated this nation slowly but surely for decades now. Wake up silly boi, and tell your bopi Massie to waje up also.
The strike against Iran was another brilliant use of the military to put not only Iran, but other nations on alert that President Donald Trump will not hesitate to use our military for specific operations to stop them form proliferating nuclear weapons to bad actor nations.
I have said no such thing, but it is obvious that Epstein and Maxwell trafficked someone to someone, or we wouldn't have convicted them (especially considering Epstein was a Democrat, and probably still votes for them), and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
That is your opinion, but in reality you do not know if Epstein trafficked anybody to anyone. He certainly made sure that he had women who were sexualy free available to rich men of influence & power, but we have no evidence that they were trafficked this time I will not repeat what the British journalisi who ha been stuying the Epsten issue for six years, other than Virginia Giuffre was caight in several lies, she also procurred other females for a handsome pay day for them & herself. Which means she was no better than Maswell. They were not held in bondadge as trafficked individuals are. The were perfectly free to roam arouind. This all started aroung the "Me Too", all women must be believed revolution that like all other nonsense the Democrats bring to the culture war it lacked common sense,and instead relied upon emotional response, which is exactly how you are acting. You do not know what really transpired, but you are more than willing to throw these people to the wolves because of what tou believe to be the truth.
It appears you automatically disbelieve any and all of these women. Giuffre said she never saw Trump do anything wrong; was she lying then, or are you just selective about what you want to believe and what you don't want to believe, as the Democrats are?
No, the evidence & facts lead me to my conclusions. It doesn't mean I am right, but then again, it doesn't help your believe either. As for her telling the truth about Trump, there is evidence to back up wht she has said. Again, tht evidence is what I based my conclusion on, not her words on a stand alone basis. I also know exactly what the Democrats are, a lying bunch of power hugry political hacks who have gotten filthy rich off of the taxpayers whom they want to enslave, literally, not figuratively.
Yes, and? You seem to think it's all about personal loyalty, following President Trump on every issue completely, no matter what he says or does. It isn't. It's about advancing principles.
Yes, the majority by all measures won this election with a mandate on the campaign issues that he stated. Therefore, Massie, as well as, all legislators have a responsibility to carry out those campaign promises that we voted him to carry out. It's not loyalty, it's doing what the people want. It's legal;, and it is also morally responsible for the nation's well being.
Why does President Trump endorse RINOs like Lindsey Graham?
Because he has sway over other RINOs.
That's precisely why Massie's concern is. When we were attacked in 1941, FDR asked for and got a declaration of war the next day. Massie is asking the President to seek a Congressional declaration of war. You cna't just go around using force
Again, that was a military act, where as we are being attacked asymmetrically, not millitarilly. Are you unsure what I am talking about? Apparently that is the case.
They are not attacking us using their military, they are attacking us finacially, with drugs, infiltration, bribing people within to assist them in taking down this nation, od you understand now, why Trump would not be given a declaration of war as was given to FDR in WWII. Once again though your ignorance is showing. Trump was well within the law for what he did in Venezula.
"America goes not forth searching for monsters to destroy." -- John Quincy Adams
There was no searching done. What was done was akin to what Thomas Jefferson did with the Barbury pirates. To solve a problem plaguing this nation. Surely there should be nothing objectionable. It wasn't a protracted operation that lasted approximately 2.5 hours from start to finish, and again there was no need to declare war on Venezuea. He didn't really even foment a regime change,, since the Vice President was allowed to ascend to the Presidency.
Cuba and Iran seem to be teetering on the brink without the USA using force.
Again, you show that your ignorance knows no boundaries. Cuba is teetering exactly because of the operation executed to bring Nicolas Maduro to stand trial as a narco-terrorist, because their access to Venezuela's oil has been eliminated.
Iran is teetering because of the citizenry, and that may have been spraked by their declining power, as well as, our one & done attack on their nuclear enrichment & development of nuclear weapons capabilities, but that last part is subjective, as I believe that the economy was the actual spark that ignited the rioting. Getting the Mullahs removed from Iran would go a long way to bringing stability & hopefully peace to the Middle East. Trump is just providing a visible sow of force to keep the Muluahs from commiting mass murder on their citizenry. Hopefully that is all that will be needed to topple this repressive regime who practices the ROP at the end of a barrel.
Yet both the OBBB & the CR increased or maintained the excessive spending.That just increases our debt.
The Omnibus bill that they approved for Biden, created the problem to begin with, and their refusal to stop Biden for throwing the gates of this nation wide open to bring in q0s of millions of illegal invadrs, who required taking care of, and supplying their every need was passed by a Democrat controlled Congress. When the Republicans retook the House, they Senate remaned in control of the Democrats. That was the time to shutdown the government demanding an end of the invasion, and starting the deportation process.
Which doesn't empower him to just do anything he wants.
Actually it does empower hiom to do what he peomised he would do, and there was nothing illegal about doing so either.
You're being ridiculous. There eis literally nothing that supports you dumb claim
Yes the critizism of ICE & the operation in Venezuwla are 2 examples. They are Democrat talking points and the radicals are are the people Massie is siding with. Your lack of congnitive thiknking skills prevent you from seeing the truth.
The remaioning screed from you is nothing more than an exercise in ommission & decpetive debating. So, I will stop here.
Becuase you've been told to think that.
He has a voice, and he could voice his objections that the Budget Committee must start producing a budget that lowere the spending.
Not while it's in committee. He does offer amendments. It's not Massie's fault that the rest of Congress refuses to cut spending.
And he also pushes for individual, single-subject spending bills instead of omnibus bills.
Massie works to achieve what President Trump says he wants to do, despite the legislature. He's offered bills to codify the DOGE cuts. Johnson buried it.
this only comes up when they want to shutdown the government.
That is untrue. it comes up every time they want to consider spending.
Massie introduced a bill co codify the DOGE cuts. He introduced a bill to kill the automobile kill switch. He's introduced many such bills. It's not his fault that the RINOs and Dhimmicraps team up to kill them. Yet you use that to attack him.
I have no one feeding me my opinions
And yet you completely regurgitate whatever "your team" says at any given moment.
Present just some of those items
Net increase in spending: ~$368 billion over 10 years
The bill is widely scored by independent and nonpartisan analysts as adding to the federal deficit.
It appropriates $10 billion per fiscal year in new spending to the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) for 2026-2030 ($50 billion over five years) to disperse.
Exempts states with up to a 6% error rate form the matching funds requirement for SNAP.
It extends the ARC program through the 2031 crop year. It also increases the coverage guarantee level from 86% to 90% of the benchmark revenue and increases the maximum payment amount from 10% to 12.5% of the benchmark revenue.
Extends the Marketing Assistance Loan (MAL) program nonrecourse and recourse loans through the 2031 crop year.
Increases certain crop insurance premium subsidies
And others. It's an 850-page bill that cuts certain items but increases many others and increases overall spending and debt.
CBO projects the bill will increase the budget deficit by roughly $4.7 trillion over ten years, even accounting for tariff revenues and spending changes.
Tied to the bill is a large increase in the federal debt limit (several trillion dollars)
When interest costs and other costs are factored, it is estimated that it will require $4.1 trillion or more in additional borrowing.
There have been no formal charges against these people to out them publicly. Besides that Ro Kahanna just released a buinch of names.
Good. But we need ALL of them. If they're not fully released, unredacted, soon, Massie will read them all. He would prefer that DOJ simply unredacted them, as his (and Khanna's) law requires.
you do not know if Epstein trafficked anybody to anyone.
Are you serious? That's what Maxwell's conviction was for -- trafficking. You seem very eager to make sure we never find out about it. What are you scard of? Who are you so eager to protect?
Why the animus towards Virginia Giuffre, who said President Trump never did anything wrong? It appears you automatically disbelieve any and all of these women. Again, who are you protecting?
It was a brilliant show of force that successfully removed a criminal who has been responsible for the deaths of of millions of Americans via drug overdose..
Then why are we leaving his regime in place?
So we can just declare any head of state a criminal and go remove him or her? Taht sounds a little dangerous, even from a leader with teh best of intentions like President Trump. Imagine Newscum or Whitler applying that same policy. Or AOC.
As I said before you & MNassie are troo gnorant to recognize when this nation is at war
More falsehods from you. Why not admit we're at war with China and Iran and go get their leaders?
we are being attacked asymmetrically, not millitarilly.
True, but there's no real difference. Do you mean to tell me that the means by which we're being attacked changes teh constitutional responsibilities and rules of how we respond to that attack?
the majority by all measures won this election with a mandate on the campaign issues that he stated. Therefore, Massie, as well as, all legislators have a responsibility to carry out those campaign promises that we voted him to carry out.
That's not how it works. Taht's exactly why we don't have a parliamentary system like Britain (which as more members of hte House of Commons than we have members of teh House of Representatives, BTW.)
Massie and the other 434 members were elected to represent the interests of their constituents, not just to follow the president wherever he may go. It's not an executive-driven system or a party-driven system. The Framers divided power on purpose.
As teh great Edmund Burke said, "Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgement; and he betrays you instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion."
Because he has sway over other RINOs.
Dumb answer. Lindsey Graham has about a 60% support rating, whereas Massie's is in teh 90s. Yet you support Lindsey and oppose Massie becuase POTUS told you to.
Cuba is teetering exactly because of the operation executed to bring Nicolas Maduro to stand trial as a narco-terrorist
That's a factor; Cuba was teetering before that.
Iran is teetering because of the citizenry, and that may have been spraked by their declining power
Thank you for proving my point.
The Omnibus bill that they approved for Biden, created the problem to begin with
True -- and Massie opposed it. And that doesn't mean we shoudl just continue those irresponsible, insane, dangerous spending levels. Massie voted against those levels of spending under Biden and under Trump. Everyone else (virtually) flipped on it, depending on who was in office.
Actually it does empower hiom to do what he peomised he would do
Again, no, he's not empowered to do just any old thing he wants to do. Congress has a say; you seem to think their duty is to just play follow the leader. That totally undermines the constitutional design of our governmental system. He's not just automatically empowered to do whatever he may have promised unless Congress supports it. No President is.
Remember when 0bama told John McCain to shut up becuase he won? He no more had he power to just do what he wanted without any opposition than Trump does or Biden did.
They are Democrat talking points and the radicals are are the people Massie is siding with.
Repeating this over and over won't make it true.
The remaining screed from you is nothing more than an exercise in omission & deceptive debating. So, I will stop here.
Now move along. I do not like Massie, I do not think he does a darn thing for this nation, and I think he is a RINO.
You are free to state your opinion about him, just as I am to state mine. But you still are ignorant if you think that the Epsteinn issue is importatn, and more oimportant than the real issues that face this nation.
If this nation falls, you will deserve what will happen when that happens. I guarantee that uyou will understand why Epstein is not worth the efforts being wasted on the issue. There are far more important issues.
You reminder me of Nero who fiddled while Rome burned, only you aren't a leader. Instead, you are just a follower.
You simply refuse to understand any of my points. You’re saying nothing of any substance but revealing yourself as a blind follower. Your arguments hold no water and I hv no further time to go over hte same ground when you think officials should just show blind loyalty to one man, regardless of what he wants.
But keep expending your energy on BS, because that is what you are full of.
I do not care for Massie. I have this opinion oof him based upon my seeing him waste his energy on this issue, instead of trying to regain control of our nation.
You will come to regret your ignorance, and perhaps Massie may also, though he will have enriched himself to a greater degree than you will.
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