Posted on 01/01/2026 2:11:54 AM PST by Jonty30
A deep dive into the ancient, go-to idea that God uses Islam to punish those who go astray:
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My answer is that God did not send Islam to punish mankind. When you leave God, God lets you suffer the consequences of your decisions. Nature abhors a vacuum and making God absent leaves you prone to idealogical vulnerabilities.
My answer is that God did not send Islam to punish mankind.
Very much agree.
God wants you upright to sing with him.
Allah demands you kneel with your butt in the air in submission.
NO
The giant bell-curve of life requires it.
Where there is darkness, there is light.
Where there is good, there is evil.
Well said.
I would add, Islam looks like a fake totalitarian religion Satan cobbled together from Judao/Christianity.
As is said about socialism, its features are so appealing (or not) that they have to be forced on a population with totalitarianism (i.e., total control of every aspect of your life).
The Christian God is good in his nature but he allows evil to exist so that we know what is good. He loves us unconditionally even when we sin against Him.
Sam Shamoui has a great video explaining that Islam is the work of Satan and Allah is Satan himself.
The evidence certainly points to that.
I think it more likely that God sent Islam to punish believers in Allah.
islam is bad for its adherents.
Us too.
I struggled many decades ago to read the Koran. More than anything it seemed a screed by Mohammed against people he hated, not unlike Hitler’s Mein Kampf.
I had a mystical sort of rabbi at Chabad. Great guy.
He said, “G-d is so vast we cannot possibly understand him. G-d is essentially the nature of the universe. We can look at the outcomes of behaviors in the natural world to understand whether G-d approves of them or not.”
islam sucks for its adherents. There is no successful islamic country on the planet except those WE built on their oil.
G-d is clearly opposed to islam because it is a failure for humans.
islam indicts itself with “Inshallah”, approximately “if it is allah’s will”. “allah” apparently hates islam and muslims, because his will is apparently to keep them poor, enalaved to others, and murdering other humans.
We may disagree on who sent it, but I think we can agree on what it is.
Agreed.
It’s a bent of human nature, the sin nature really, that man does not tend to seek God when things are going well.
Ideally, it would be fantastic if people sought after God out of love and gratitude for what He has done for them, but we don’t.
It’s only during times of trouble that we seek Him.
The great thing is, He loves us so much, that instead of being offended by that, He uses that to draw us to Himself. So no, I don’t believe that God sent islam to punish us, but He did allow it’s expansion, because we (mankind) allowed for it and He can use it.
Yup.
Satan’s mission is to steal, kill, and destroy, and that s clearly the end result when islam is in charge.
Amen
He needs to be invited back into our institutions, our culture, our homes and our hearts.
Speculative drivel.
A pitiful attempt to produce meaningful words for which the writer can claim a paycheck
islam is the end result of man approving and justifying his own sin, islam is the only religion where sin is worship and the god they worship is the fallen angel lucifer. If anyone says that the God of Abraham is the God of the momos, they are liars, they are saying that God is a psychopath, pitting one Son against another. One Son to save the world and the other son to murder the world if they do not worship sin.
no, just the false prophet Jesus warned of
During the Reformation, some Protestant leaders like Martin Luther saw Islam (specifically the Ottoman Empire) as a scourge or punishment for Christendom’s sins or corruption within the Church
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