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It's a weird dichotomy among the Democrats. Many are saying that even though Obamacare really sucks to the extent that we must replace it with "Medicare For All" that we must continue subsidizing it. So after foisting Obamacare on the public on a strictly party line vote and seeing it FLOP horribly you would think they would display even a modicum of humility. BUT NO!!! They continue to attack Republicans for not wanting to continue to pay absurdly increasing subsidies for this FLOP while at the same time telling the public that they have something BETTER than Obamacare namely Medicare For All which is government run healthcare which means that would FLOP as well.

Finally, we keep hearing about a supposed GOP civil war but this split on Obamacare vs Medicare For All looks much MORE divisive than anything dividing Republicans.

1 posted on 12/23/2025 1:36:02 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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Medicare for All won’t work because you have to PAY for Medicare.


2 posted on 12/23/2025 1:39:19 PM PST by AppyPappy (They don't call you a Nazi because they think you are one. They do it to justify violence. )
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Following democrats and their logic patterns, health insurance needs to cost more than your earnings. (This was why they wanted the mandate) Then the only answer becomes a single payer government run healthcare system.

That's the finish l8ne.

4 posted on 12/23/2025 1:41:59 PM PST by blackdog (The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.)
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Trump45/47’s take on the matter notwithstanding, the purpose of Obamacare was to establish a government-run single payer health care system. Since that didn’t happen (yet), in their minds, Obamacare didn’t meet its design objective.


5 posted on 12/23/2025 1:45:00 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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Who could not figure out it would be a huge -——— disaster?


7 posted on 12/23/2025 1:48:24 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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instead increasingly demand its replacement with Medicare For All.

Which was their plan the whole time.

8 posted on 12/23/2025 1:49:58 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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Obamacare was designed to fail so as to force republicans into medicare for all.


9 posted on 12/23/2025 1:53:10 PM PST by ckilmer (I )
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Gosh really? A flop huh? He was actually quite successful. As a communist mfer. As a result my wife pays $1000 a month for health insurance along with many other “successful” anti American BS that dung beetle accomplished. This among other “successes”!


10 posted on 12/23/2025 1:54:22 PM PST by albie
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Admitting failure could set some free but they unfortunately think collectively so they are incapable of accepting obvious failure.


11 posted on 12/23/2025 1:59:26 PM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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It turned into Barry Soetoro Care (BSC) and is costing hardworking American families a fortune. FTDs.


12 posted on 12/23/2025 2:03:21 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (America IS NOT a nation of illegal alien criminals. We've got too many criminals in our judiciary. )
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Obamacare was ALWAYS supposed to be a stepping stone to the single payer option. The fact that it has failed should be a surprise to absolutely NO one.


13 posted on 12/23/2025 2:46:51 PM PST by FrankRizzo890
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Obamacare is working exactly as it was designed to do.

Destroy the existing healthcare system and replace it with a system that is so horrible that the sheeple will eventually beg for socialized medicine.


14 posted on 12/23/2025 2:57:37 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (Our long national nightmare is over!)
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Depends on who got their pockets packed(Obama et al), we know who got them picked.


15 posted on 12/23/2025 3:00:40 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (there are demons out there, and they look like people)
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Lordy, just look at what this fiasco has cost the people actually paying for health insurance! 15 years of this crap and poorer quality health care to boot .
All the dei jobs in the drs offices and everybody but you getting free rides to the doctor what’s not to hate ? And the premiums.


16 posted on 12/23/2025 3:20:34 PM PST by Recompennation ( Deeeeeeeeezout )
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Still waiting for the $2,500 per family savings that Obama promised us in June 2008.


18 posted on 12/23/2025 3:40:18 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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“Democrats are united in bashing GOP on Obamacare.”

A program THEY rammed through, DEEMED it through, as Pelosi put it, got to PASS IT TO SEE WHAT’S IN IT, and NOT ONE SINGLE GOP VOTE was used to pass it in either House or Senate.

Nor were there any when it came up for re-authorization.

Yet now they have the gall to blame Republicans for the very thing THEY THEMSELVES CREATED!...............


20 posted on 12/23/2025 4:35:48 PM PST by Red Badger (Iryna Zarutska, May 22, 2002 Kyiv, Ukraine – August 22, 2025 Charlotte, North Carolina Say her name)
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MAGACARE! Medicare seems to be working fairly well for seniors with the addition of Advantage plans. Obamacare is not working for anybody. Liberals claim to like Medicare. Conservatives claim to like Medicare. Let’s skip another government shutdown. Neither side can refuse this solution. Medicare is in place. Seniors need lots more medicine and care than younger people. If Congress will agree to implement Medicare for all, people who need medical insurance can sign up for it. Yes, there will need to be adjustments. I propose insurance companies either agree to this or go out of business. Americans are being left high and dry once again as Congress dithers about to the last second. I am well aware that many here are against medicare for all. But it would be far better than the disaster many Americans face now. MAGACARE!


22 posted on 12/23/2025 4:49:29 PM PST by Frangibled
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Medicare for ALL would be worse. Are these people insane?


24 posted on 12/23/2025 7:20:20 PM PST by GOPJ (Democrats stand with criminals, dope dealers, illegals & terrorists. <P><I><B><big><center></B>)
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Flop? Yeah, for the people who needed affordable health insurance and for the doctors to provide it, it was a major failure. But per its intended beneficiaries and the DC politicians who rammed it down the American’s throats, it was a huge success. They ALL realized billions of dollars in corporate and personal wealth.


25 posted on 12/23/2025 8:46:11 PM PST by drypowder
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