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Posted on 12/23/2025 5:57:42 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica
John Stossel interviews James Lindsay, famous for fighting wokeness on the left. Lindsay is vigorously investigating wokeness on the right, mostly but not limited to those following the ideas of Nick Fuentes.
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A new section of the right is foolishly bashing liberty … and even embracing Marxist ideas.
That's why some call them the "woke right."
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Its not scientific, however...... I know...... Anyways I have seen some variation of this with my own eyes though for whatever that is worth. I think James Lindsay is definitely on to something.
And why wouldn't there be a Nick Fuentes woke right? These children were doomed by their parents into the government schools.
These kids somehow managed to reject the leftness but remained with a strong embrace of the wokeness. I'm a victim, oh woe is me, the world owes me something, gimme free stuff, and maybe there is something to that idea of totalitarianism except maybe it shouldn't be socialistic.
Any conservative who trashes freedom and praises Marx is not a conservative.
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Stossel makes a fine, fine point.
Therefore, the freeloaders are NOT AMERICANS OR CONSERVATIVES. They are worthless, bottom feeding Socialists and communists interest in only poking their cellphones and poking the buffalo up at Yellowstone.
> Any conservative who trashes freedom and praises Marx is not a conservative. <
Yep. It’s just that simple.
Bkmk
I’ve never heard of a single conservative praise Marx (as a person) in all my life. Have some conservatives conceded about some points made by Marx about worker exploitation and undue corporate influence in politics? Well of course. But if Stossel thinks there’s some “Woke” vein currently within the political Right, then he’s as delusional as Joy Reid. Not being a Losertarian is not the same thing as being Woke.
Ironically, this resonates with my prior comment about the ‘true pandemic’ this morning...
What the young white kids learned at school was that everyone in class had a tribe except them.
If the white kids tried to form a tribe they were declared racist and extremists.
Now establishment conservatives are attacking them as well for being the “woke right”.
The reason they think they are victims is because they are victims.
We should remember that the word -- conservative -- is itself under attack, in an attempt to advance the Left, Islam and the grifters who aim to pry our wallets open.
Barack Obama, conservative Washington Post, 22 November 2019
There are some very good arguments to support these positions. You would ignore them at your peril.
Hans-Herman Hoppe, a rightwing libertarian, wrote a book in 2001 called 'Democracy, the god that failed'. In it, he makes some pretty compelling arguments against Democracy and in favor of Monarchism. I would highly recommend reading it, even if only to be able to counter arguments against an ascendent belief system that you disagree with.
Regarding the Constitution, there are only 2 options....
1.) It was designed well and the way it was designed, was always going to lead to the dystopian country we now live in. 2.) It was designed poorly and it was incapable of preventing the dystopian country we now live in.
Either way, it has become clear that it is no longer something to be respected. It is used as a false religion and magic spells by the right to try and hold off the unceasing move to the left and it is used as a weapon by the left to bash over the head of the right.
I am not arguing that liberty should not be the highest goal of a civilization. Although, I would entertain that there could be higher goals...(prosperity of the people, happiness of the people, longevity and continuation of the culture and traditions, etc...) However, even accepting that liberty IS the highest goal...the question becomes, "What is the best system to achieve that end?"
The next question becomes...."Is the current system the best system?"
I would argue an emphatic "NO".
And what of any conservative who doesn’t praise Marx...................
But they DO trash freedom and perhaps praise monarchism? Perhaps they DO trash the Constitution but don’t give specifics on their preferred form of totalitarianism?
The left has backed themselves into a corner. A corner labeled, “We’re nutjobs”. They’re losing NORMAL people. If you can’t answer, “What is a woman?”, and they’re STILL there, then you have a massive problem.
The ONLY CHANCE they have is to change the narrative. To put NEW LABELS on conservatives. This requires the association with new, but idiotic, ideas, like asserting anti-Constitution positions, saying we’re all behind Nick Fuentes, etc., etc., all to highlight that we’re racist scumbags that want to imprison anyone that disagrees with us.
Of course, the truth will be the opposite. It’s all about the midterms right now, building toward 2028.
The problem is that the leftists have marched through so many institutions that most of those institutions are no longer worth “conserving”.
It was done a little bit at a time so at times it may have been easy to ignore.
For young people it has become totally obvious.
They don’t care what they are called. They want to fix it—and they want to win.
The good thing, after all, is that the far right, if it even exists, has nothing to do with traditionalists who uphold family values, good manners, and respect for the law.
I do think both Stossel and Lindsay may be overstating things.
However the mentions of Andrew Tate and Nick Fuentes are spot on. Woke is a very accurate word describing these two losers.
Thank you for your thoughts.
I think we used to have a monarchst posting here on FR a while back.
The only thing wrong with the Constitution is that we aren’t following it anymore. It gets a lot of lip service, but 80% of what the FedGov does is crammed under the Commerce Clause and has very little positive effect on actual commerce. Every abuse of the FedGov seems to fall under that one clause.
Strip out the USC to a blank copy... Fire every Congresscritter and judge and require all Agencies to justify their existence under Art 1 Sec 8. Enact a new Amendment providing for a “separation of economy and State”. And make violation of the Oath of Office a death penalty offense.
Are you a monarchist?
(favoring the ideals of monarchism - favoring of the in-statement of a King and overthrowing the republic)
If not, what are you? Need specifics. Specific specifics.
The Founding Fathers had no illusions that the Constitution was magic paper.
The famous John Adams quote on that topic:
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other”
Remember that Adams was speaking of a country that had only white male landholders as voters.
It is the current mutilated version of the Constitution that has failed. It is the current “diverse melting pot” that has failed.
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