Yas Marina Circuit, Yas Island
First Grand Prix: 2009
NumBer of Laps: 58
Circuit Length: 5.281 km
Race Distance: 306.183 km
Lap Record: 1:25.637
Kevin Magnussen (2024)
Posted on 12/04/2025 12:38:23 PM PST by Carriage Hill
2025 FORMULA 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX Live Thread
Circuit: Yas Marina Circuit, Yas Island First Grand Prix: 2009, Number of Laps: 58, Circuit Length: 5.281 km, Race Distance: 306.183 km, Lap Record: 1:25.637 Kevin Magnussen (2024)
First Grand Prix: 2009
NumBer of Laps: 58
Circuit Length: 5.281 km
Race Distance: 306.183 km
Lap Record: 1:25.637
Kevin Magnussen (2024)
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F1 keeps getting better and NASCAR is another story of failure due to greed.
RACECAR
Spelled Backwards smells as Sweet!
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Wished Tony Stewart was in Abu Dhabi..
Go Smoke!
This should be a good one with the drivers championship still undecided. Pulling for Norris but it’s hard not to root for Max with his great comeback this year.
F1 is better over the last few seasons, and as you say, TRASHCAR is circling the bowl.
Ol’ Tony would sure liven things up in F1. I think Cadillac might do some of that next season, too.
I’m hoping Max can pull it out, but both McLarens will have to have problems and not score many points.
Been Cheering on Max
Seems to Have Helped!
Ha!
Some Home Town talent will
Be nice with Cadillac.
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Tony in Straight liners is
Fascinating but Dragracing
To Me is a waste of
Good Rubber.
“I’m hoping Max can pull it out, but both McLarens will have to have problems and not score many points.”
Not true. If Max wins and Lando is fourth or worse, Max wins it. The point difference is 12 points at 396 to 408. So if Max is third, ahead of Oscar, and Lando is worse than 7th Max still wins it.
Of course, if Lando is third or better. he wins.
Unless something strange happens, Lando will do better than fourth so he should be the champ.
I’m also rooting for Max and a good race.
NORRIS (408 points) is champion if he finishes:
- On the podium.- Fourth or fifth and Verstappen does not win
- Sixth or seventh and neither Verstappen nor Piastri wins
- Eighth and Verstappen is not in the top two and Piastri does not win
- Ninth and Verstappen is not on the podium and Piastri does not win
- 10th or lower and Verstappen is not on the podium and Piastri no higher than third.
VERSTAPPEN (396) is champion if:
- He wins and Norris is not on the podium- He finishes second and Norris is no higher than eighth and Piastri does not win.
- He finishes third and Norris is ninth or lower and Piastri does not win
PIASTRI (392) is champion if:
- He wins and Norris is not in the top five- He finishes second and Norris is 10th or lower and Verstappen not on the podium
In the unlikely event that Norris and Verstappen end up tied on points, the number of wins will decide the title on an initial countback.
Since they are level on seven wins, and a tie would only be possible if neither of them win, the countback would go down to second places over the 24-race season. In that scenario Norris would win.
Verstappen and Piastri cannot end up as the top two tied on points, given Norris's advantage.
I came across an interesting — and not altogether unlikely — scenario in one of the blogs. What happens if they’re three laps from the end of the race and they’re running Verstappen, Sainz, Piastri and Norris?
Will Piastri let Norris through, giving him the WDC?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Ecclestone thinks Max will pull it off because:
A. Verstappen is living rent-free in the minds of both Norris and Piastri, and ...
B. At the moment, McLaren would be hard-pressed to find its own buttocks in the dark with both hands
OBTW, in 1956 it was the driver who qualified, not the car, so the driver technically could change cars during the race.
Juan Manuel Fangio led the WDC going into Monza, the final race of the season. When his steering arm broke, Ferrari teammate Peter Collins agreed to switch cars with him.
Fangio came second to Sterling Moss on the day and the points he shared with Collins were enough to give Fangio the WDC.
If Collins had stayed in his own car and come second, he also would have been WDC, not Fangio.
Piastri didn’t participate because of mandatory inexperienced driver rules. Note that developmental drivers are in other cars. The normal driver’s number is located next to the developmental tag.
4 - Norris MCL 1:24.485
1 - Verstappen RBR +0.008s
16 - C. Leclerc FER +0.016s
12 - Antonelli MER +0.123s
27 - Hulkenberg SAU +0.144s
63 - Russell MER +0.248s
5 - Bortleto SAU +0.257s
87 - Bearman HAA +0.274s
55 - Sainz Jnr WIL +0.286s
43 - Colapinto +0.370s
50 - Hirakawa (DEV/31) HAS +0.449s
6 - Hadjar RB +0.492s
61 - Aron (DEV/10) ALP +0.719s
89 - O’Ward (DEV/4) MCL +0.761s
36 - Linblad (DEV/22) RBR +0.771s
39 - A. Leclerc (DEV/44) FER +0.875s
40 - Iwasa (DEV/30) RB +0.990s
46 - Browning (DEV/23) WIL +1.005s
35 - Crawford (DEV/14) AMR +1.404s
34 - Shields (DEV/18) AMR +1.947s
Interesting story on JPF.
Thanks for the new thread!
Drag: Made by the finest soldiers to rebuild engines after they rebuilt radial engine (piston powered) aircraft in World War II.
Do you have a link for JPF?
Thanks.
eve PG posted it, sorry.
The Greatest Act of Sportsmanship in Formula One History
Fangio was about a month past his 37th birthday when he made his first F1 start, yet he went on to win five WDCs. His win at the 1957 GP of Germany (Nürburgring) is considered one of the greatest feats of over-driving a car (something that modern cars won't allow) without dying in the process ... ever. He broke the lap record for The Green Hell, then went on to break his own record eight more times, seven times on consecutive laps.
He missed the start of the 1958 (non-championship) Grand Prix of Cuba ... because he'd been kidnapped by Castro's thugs. He was released after 29 hours and told the press he was "treated very well."
¡Qué Hombre!
So the winner of 83% of the races so far this season was decided on the first lap.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/analysis/f1-drivers-title-fight-could-be-decided-before-abu-dhabi-gp
And SURPRISE! Zak Brown has changed his tune about NOT using team orders at Abu Dhabi. Brown now say McLaren will use team orders if necessary to secure the WDC.
https://speedcafe.com/f1-news-2025-abu-dhabi-mclaren-team-orders-title-showdown-championship-lando-norris-oscar-piastri/
And if Verstappen wins the WDC, expect a rash of suicides among English bookmakers because back in August, when Max was 104 points out of 1st, they were giving 80-to-1 on him winning the WDC.
https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/formula-one/verstappen-title-win-would-be-bookmakers-nightmare
The plot thickens.
The McLarens’ right front tires are “struggling with graining, and that has opened the door to increased degradation concerns.”
This was a factor at Qatar because of its “low grip.”
“...Pirelli chief engineer Simone Berra said: ‘We measured [Abu Dhabi] pre-event that the grip was lower than previous years, anyway, much lower than what we had in Qatar, for example, one week ago. And it’s one of the lowest of the season.’...”
Ruh-roh!
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/return-of-norriss-worst-nightmare-complicates-f1-title-showdown/
I think it would be hilarious (and tragic in the same breath) if the WDC is decided by tire deg, which in turn is a byproduct of the FIA’s insistence on managing race results. Another case of “the tail wagging the dog.”
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