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1 posted on 11/27/2025 4:29:09 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70
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F. Mark Kelly.


2 posted on 11/27/2025 4:32:51 PM PST by Mashood
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WORDS mean something. People are responsible for what they say.


3 posted on 11/27/2025 4:35:13 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. ~ Psalm 33:12)
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I think you’re being naive - if not thoroughly disingenuous.


4 posted on 11/27/2025 4:36:31 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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Kelly means both.

That Trump is giving illegal, fascist orders, and unless the military disobeys, they are legitimate targets.


6 posted on 11/27/2025 4:40:22 PM PST by Reverend Wright (Anschluss now !)
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If true, that would make the video a psy-op against the American people. In addition to, not instead of, sedition. Plans within plans, wheels within wheels, as Frank Herbert would have written.
8 posted on 11/27/2025 4:45:53 PM PST by asinclair (Indict DNC for RICO?)
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Who was the target audience? It wasn’t generals and admirals. They are well educated in this regard and overall. Most officers are well educated in this matter and nearly all are college educated. I would say the same of senior enlisted.

That leaves junior enlisted. This was likely the targeted audience.

Consider this; the Commander in Chief issues an unlawful order, what should the senator’s action be? Call for an emergency session of congress? Seek redress in federal court? Or encourage junior enlisted to mutiny?

The last one is clearly inane. Outside a true illegal order, discontent is his only hope.

He was a ranking officer in the Navy. He knows the President isn’t doing anything illegal. It wasn’t illegal to fight undeclared wars in Korea and Vietnam, you can add Afghanistan and Iraq to that. It wasn’t illegal for our incursions into Pakistan. It wasn’t illegal for Clinton to lob missiles into Serbia. It seemingly was illegal to kill an American in a foreign country. It wasn’t illegal to invade Grenada, nor to invade Panama and forcibly remove its leader (a situation very close to the one that exists in Venezuela.). I could go on.

Bottom line, we have, for the past 75 years vested more and more authority in the executive branch and now dems are shocked by its breadth of authority.


10 posted on 11/27/2025 4:51:01 PM PST by rey
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It’s not one or the other. It’s both.


11 posted on 11/27/2025 4:51:11 PM PST by Salman
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so these billboards popping up saying the exact same thing are not coordinated? Extremelllllllllllllllly unlikely! Good try!


12 posted on 11/27/2025 4:51:12 PM PST by big bad easter bunny
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Who really knows the intentions of another? What is of concern are the results and consequences of the action(s).

Woe be to the azzhatz of the world.

13 posted on 11/27/2025 4:55:37 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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Then why was Kelly on Jimmy Kimmel saying he was not going to back down from his statements or from Trump the dictator?


14 posted on 11/27/2025 5:15:15 PM PST by vivenne (7Come to think of it. Fact)
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What if monkeys flew out of my butt.


15 posted on 11/27/2025 5:17:27 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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Well, if they didn’t mean it, who cares? Mutiny is exactly what the outcome looks like.


16 posted on 11/27/2025 5:19:16 PM PST by Joann37 (This )
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Oh stop! All six of them were hoping to sow the seeds of discord in our military personnel. They are guilty as sin of sedition but likely will get off with a warning. 🙄


18 posted on 11/27/2025 5:22:13 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Oooohhh...there is that word “intend”....ya know, I did not intend to kill that person...just wound or scare them...yeah...thats it.


19 posted on 11/27/2025 5:24:52 PM PST by goodnesswins (Make educ institutions return to the Mission...reading, writing, math...not Opinions & propaganda)
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They will do no such thing. This was all a part of the plan. Opening salvos so to speak. I don’t think at this point they are in any legal jeopardy either. They even have billboards up now all over the place calling for the military to disobey Trumps orders.
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They are in jeopardy morally, but they won’t be legally. That is all that matters to these people. Morally wrong means nothing to them.


21 posted on 11/27/2025 5:41:09 PM PST by dforest
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Maybe they were just doing it at the behest of the cartels and other foreign actors who are paying them off on the sly.


22 posted on 11/27/2025 5:46:54 PM PST by fruser1
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Telling soldiers "Don't obey illegal orders" is like telling kids "Look both way before crossing the street" ? It's okay for mom to tell the kids to look both ways, but this whole thing about illegal orders would not come out in an organized video release unless the originator wanted to sow discontent among the military.

If you accept the notion of plausible deniability, then it might be innocent. I guess it depends on whether or not you look both ways before you cross the street as a pedestrian.

Me? I look both ways before I turn onto a one-way street, or enter a roundabout.

23 posted on 11/27/2025 5:47:11 PM PST by Bernard ("Nothing is as expensive as that which the government provides for free." - Ronald Reagan)
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What if Senator Kelly and the other members of Congress making that video about not following illegal orders did not intend it for our military. What if they intended it as a message to their hysterical followers. What if they intended their followers to assume anyone in uniform following Trump's orders were following illegal orders, because what else can Trump do? At this point how could anyone know if that was their intent or not?

Why not both scenarios? They intended it for the military and they intended it for their hysterical followers.

25 posted on 11/27/2025 5:59:38 PM PST by FreeReign
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I think most here didn’t read past your headline.


27 posted on 11/27/2025 6:02:24 PM PST by FreeReign
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Regardless of their intent Kelly and his seditious co-conspirators are responsible for the results of their video. I believe they should hang for subverting the military chain of command.


28 posted on 11/27/2025 6:13:33 PM PST by rllngrk33 (The soap box and ballot box have failed, it's really close to time for the bullet box.)
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