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H-1B visa row: Indian-origin Howard professor ignites debate with ‘average-grade labor’ remark
Hindustan Times ^ | Sowetan Kukreti

Posted on 11/24/2025 5:05:24 AM PST by libh8er

Ron Hira, Indian-origin professor at Howard University and a prominent critic of the H-1B visa program, has once again raised questions regarding the operation of this program in the US. In a post on X, Hira claimed that a considerable number of H-1B visa holders are of average quality and could be sourced domestically.

Given that Indians constitute the largest proportion of H-1B visa holders, Hira's critique was sure to attract attention. As the son of Indian immigrants who came to the US in the 1950s, well before the establishment of the H-1B system, his perspective sparked further discussion. ‘H-1B must be radically reformed,’ says Howard professor In a post on X, Hira mentioned that “A significant number of H-1B visa holders are average-grade labor that could be supplied domestically. Meanwhile, recent U.S. college students can’t find work in their field of study, and AI threatens to further disrupt the labor market. ” During a Heritage Foundation event, Hira elaborated on his views about the shortcomings of the existing system for both foreign and American workers. He stressed that rather than displacing American workers, the focus should be on reorganizing labor laws to guarantee that the H-1B program does not lower wages, protects all workers, and successfully handles actual labor shortages.

In an online video, Hira demonstrated real-life instances of how companies reportedly take profit from legal gaps. He gave an example of Deloitte Consulting, a leading H-1B company, that accepted an application in 2023. “And here the employer, Deloitte Consulting, a top 10 H-1B employer, is claiming that a position in its own job title is senior consultant. That’s Deloitte Consulting describing the position. A senior consultant is actually an entry-level position when it comes to setting the prevailing wage for the H-1B worker,” he stated. “Is a senior consultant entry-level? Probably not,” Hira added.

Hira's remarks sparked considerable debate on the internet. “And what is the ethnicity of the speaker? Indian? Exactly,” one individual commented. Another inquired, “Why are South Asian people being made the face of the immigration-restriction movement here? Surely you can find people from historically rooted American communities to share this message?” A third participant remarked, “Yet the Heritage Foundation wants to destroy all of our public institutions and privatize everything, giving these greedy corporations even more power. They will continue to offshore jobs and hire foreign labor while telling us we’re too stupid for the good jobs.” “Well, this looks like just another case of ‘H-1Bs against H-1B.’ Clearly these Indians don’t want more Indians to come,” one more chimed in.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: h1b; h1btruth

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1 posted on 11/24/2025 5:05:24 AM PST by libh8er
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To: libh8er

The average IQ of Indians is one gradient lower (82) than the average IQ of the American (98).

From many years ago, they sent us their best. They are now sending us the B-team.


2 posted on 11/24/2025 5:20:58 AM PST by Jonty30 (I've been diagnosed as being polemic and there is no cure. )
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To: libh8er

Deport him.


3 posted on 11/24/2025 5:21:16 AM PST by nwrep
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To: libh8er
I live in what could be called a middle class...maybe even upper middle class...suburb of a major city. In my area of town there are four apartment type complexes...three are condos and one is apartments.

Living in the apartment complex are many (Asian)Indians. You see them in the neighborhood and you see their kids waiting for the school bus in the morning. I'd wager my life savings that they all work in the many high tech companies we have in our metro area (the four complexes are very close to a commuter rail station).

4 posted on 11/24/2025 5:25:32 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: nwrep

Why? And what says he’s illegal?


5 posted on 11/24/2025 5:29:53 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: nwrep

Did you read the article ?


6 posted on 11/24/2025 5:30:01 AM PST by libh8er
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To: Jonty30
I worked for a very well known hospital for 20+ years. A good percentage of the physicians,surgeons and researchers there were Indian. Very intelligent indeed. Having spent a little time in India I could accept that there are a billion people there with IQs in the vicinity of 80-85. But I know for a fact that there are very intelligent ones as well.
7 posted on 11/24/2025 5:31:15 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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To: metmom

On FR people often comment without even reading the full headline, much less the article.


8 posted on 11/24/2025 5:32:23 AM PST by libh8er
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To: Gay State Conservative

In any society, there are people who operate a gradient or two above what their societal’s average is. Much can be accomplished through simple hard work as opposed to being gifted with natural ability.

It’s just that, when I asked Grok this question, there are 33 million Indians with an IQ of 113 and about 55 million Americans with an IQ of 113

That’s based on the results of studying the population.


9 posted on 11/24/2025 5:36:41 AM PST by Jonty30 (I've been diagnosed as being polemic and there is no cure. )
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To: libh8er

“...a considerable number of H-1B visa holders are of average quality...”

I would say nearly ALL of them are average. Very few are “highly skilled”. They are good at copy and pasting but bad at creating from scratch. Many of them are low born Dalits and they come here with the same hygiene practice. I want them ALL deported.


10 posted on 11/24/2025 5:36:45 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: Jonty30
Yep. I've been saying this for a long time.

It's all fake.

11 posted on 11/24/2025 5:44:24 AM PST by Tommy Revolts
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To: Jonty30

will someone please tell that to Dinesh D’Souza?


12 posted on 11/24/2025 5:44:29 AM PST by millenial4freedom (Government was supposed to preserve freedom, not serve as a jobs program for delinquents and misfits)
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To: libh8er

That’s what I figured.

When I saw the headline, my first thought was that not positive.

I was actually pleasantly surprised when I read the article and found out is position.


13 posted on 11/24/2025 5:44:59 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: Gay State Conservative

My best friend is an attorney and her subdivision of million dollar homes is over half Indian and they are getting ready to build a budest temple on the highway in front of the SD. They are all Indians working the tech jobs. Of course they bring the whole famdamily and then they all get jobs.


14 posted on 11/24/2025 5:48:11 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You would be right about some of them but due to chain migration every techie can bring is mother and father, who then can bring their other children, who bring their spouses, who bring …….

End result is the vast majority are poor and unskilled, none of them here to assimilate, and most consuming more social services than they contribute.


15 posted on 11/24/2025 5:48:22 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: libh8er

My suggested H-1B system:
1. replace the existing system with a salary-based, monthly in 2025 and weekly thereafter, auction system
2. start with 330 openings per bid period day [and to make the system employer demand responsive]:
a. increase openings by 10 per day, up to 500 openings per day, if the winning bid average goes higher
b. decrease openings by 10 per day, down to 200 openings per day, if the winning bid average goes lower
3. get rid of the bogus can’t find an American nonsense
4. limit H-1Bs to 10% of the number of full-time, directly employed, PPACA-regulated health care cost coverage plan covered employees of the employer having a college degree
5. must work on employer’s premises on employer’s project
6. may not ever serve as a chain migration anchor [at most children/spouse]
7. fees
a. $2,000 per bid fee [to deter bogus/duplicate bids & prevent auction system denial of service], plus
b. a winner fee of 10% of the bid salary, or $8,000, whichever is higher [to compensate for reduced domestic search costs],
c. an annual inverse salary fee of 10% of the salary amount less than $200,000 plus 20% of the salary amount less than $120,000, plus
d. a payroll health coverage cost savings fee of $6 per week per year of age under age 65 [so highly experienced Americans not replaced by cheap, healthy young foreigners]
8. The Secretary of Labor shall compile computer software development language lists each December and May [college course completion months]
and shall only list languages it found to have been in existence for at least one year
9. H-1B persons can’t start work coding in a software development project in any Secretary of Labor-listed language
10. H-1B persons can’t do managerial work in their first two years in the program

The person must have at least a four-year degree in a statutorily specified subject from a Secretary of Education list of selected, respected educational institutions.

The minimum salary amount should be 120% of the most recent DoL salary survey average for the degree and years of experience using a least vertical offset squares minimized curve. If the degree is foreign, the closest common domestic degree shall be the standard to which the 120% is applied.

The H-1Bs should be bid out and awarded based on the salary premium in dollars to the minimum.

The bidder must have paid FICA in excess of $50,000 for the penultimate year per winner (to block out scammers). The Secretary of Labor may waive this requirement for up to 1,000 people per year. The bidder must have already won at auction. Auction fees would not be refunded if the waiver is not granted. The waivers will permit startups to import talent.

There would be no requirement beyond common sense to seek domestic talent (as the idea that no domestic person can be found to do a lawful high-tech job is ridiculous). The winner fee of at least $8,000 will encourage paying for a search for domestic talent.

A subsequent employer of a person would have to have a subsequent winning bid for the person.

Allowing an imported person to find a better employer would discourage employer abuse of imported employees.

The previous employer would have a qualified (subject to then current law) right to import an eligible replacement person at the bid salary or higher if the person left within one year of auction close.

After six years of salary payment at the person’s initial winning bid level or higher, the H-1B person might then be awarded permanent residence if the law in effect at the time allows for it.

[If the salary is $80,000, the annual inverse salary fee would be $20,000 ($12,000 plus $8,000).]


16 posted on 11/24/2025 5:49:12 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: libh8er

The H-1B visa program was created to disempower American white men.


17 posted on 11/24/2025 5:51:15 AM PST by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

“chain migration every techie can bring is mother and father”

Chain migration should require living in the same dwelling for as long as you are here.

If they’re so near and dear, you certainly wouldn’t mind having them near, right?


18 posted on 11/24/2025 5:52:36 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: libh8er

He is right.


19 posted on 11/24/2025 6:04:18 AM PST by dinodino ( Shut it down anyway. )
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To: libh8er

India? Isn’t that where everyone is above average?


20 posted on 11/24/2025 6:07:34 AM PST by greenbrier
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