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Author ken Kesey was as an orderly at the Menlo Park Veterans’ Hospital in California who volunteered for government-sponsored experiments with psychedelic drugs.

Also introduced one of the all-time great anti-heroes and villains.

1 posted on 11/19/2025 12:56:27 PM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

I have a crush on Nurse Ratchett. After hours.


2 posted on 11/19/2025 12:57:59 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: Kid Shelleen

Saw this when I was young. Around 16. Then watched it again about a year or so and got a different perspective of the movie.

PS. Still a good movie.


4 posted on 11/19/2025 1:06:30 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (#PureBlood )
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To: Kid Shelleen

McMurphy: Now jump up there and put the ball in the basket.


6 posted on 11/19/2025 1:08:46 PM PST by DFG
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The difference between now and then... 50 years ago they had mental institutions... Now the mental institution is outside your front door, and you walk by the mentally ill everyday on your way to work or the grocery store.


7 posted on 11/19/2025 1:10:46 PM PST by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“Want some gum? Thank you, I like Juicy Fruit”.


10 posted on 11/19/2025 1:19:32 PM PST by kawhill (What is it you want of me? I can't hear you. )
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To: Kid Shelleen

Portland is an open-air lunatic asylum.


11 posted on 11/19/2025 1:21:55 PM PST by PTBAA
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We read that book in high school English class before the movie came out. It was a great book but a lousy movie.
Critic John Simon pointed out that in the book, after Big Nurse shamed Billy Bibbitt into committing suicide, McMurphy walked up to her and tore open her nurse’s uniform to expose her huge maternal bossom, meant to humiliate her, as if to say “ don’t you have a heart”. Psychiatric nurses are not supposed to shame their patients into committing suicide, they are supposed to prevent them from committing suicide. McMurphy believes a nurse being female should be warm, nuturing, protecting, like a mother. Big Nurse was a monster. There was no nurturing, no protecting, just control.
The movie miscast McMurphy with Jack Nicholson, and miscast Big Nurse with skinny, flat chested...what’s her name? Louise Fletcher.
In the book, McMurphy gets lobotomized for tearing a uniform, which is an injustice....no due process...just torture.
In the movie, Jack Nicholson’s McMurphy responds to Big Nurse shaming Billy Bibbitt into committing suicide, by strangling her with intent to murder her, it takes the whole staff to pry his hands off her neck. When McMurphy is lobotomized for being violently insane, it does not seem as unjust...and McMurphy’s actions do not seem so reciprocal or understandable. He just wanted to see Big Nurse’s breasts in the book....he was a coarse character who chose mental hospital to avoid prison. .....but to Ken Kesey, Big Nurses bosom represented the maternal, the warm and nurturing.....which is the real reason why grown men find themselves attracted to and staring at female breasts.....ie, there is a child inside who remembers being nursed. Females also admit to staring at other female’s bosom, because they once also were babies nursing at their mommy’s breasts......but because of political correctness, males are supposed to feel ashamed of noticing female breasts, and women who notice female breasts are taught to believe it makes them gay or bi.


14 posted on 11/19/2025 1:41:46 PM PST by Keyser Soze 84
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To: Kid Shelleen

He was also a “Merry Prankster”.


15 posted on 11/19/2025 1:43:50 PM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Kid Shelleen

“Where do you suppose she lives?” —RPM


18 posted on 11/19/2025 1:56:24 PM PST by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: Kid Shelleen
Re- Open the insane asylums and put leftists in them.
20 posted on 11/19/2025 2:21:36 PM PST by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: nutmeg

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21 posted on 11/19/2025 2:23:56 PM PST by nutmeg (We are all Charlie Kirk now)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Unfortunately, it lent support to a disastrous policy of de-institutionalizing lots of people incapable of coping with the real world, creating many homeless, many drug addicts, many victims of their violence.


23 posted on 11/19/2025 2:48:10 PM PST by JewishRighter (LIBERALISM IS A DEADLY MENTAL DISORDER)
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Ever wonder why there were so few mass killings before the 1970s? I remember three mass murderers between 1949 and 1970. all crazies.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/story-first-mass-murder-us-history-180956927/

Howard Unruh, 1949. Considered the first mass murderer, So dangerous he died in a mental hospital in 2009.
Richard Speck, 1966. Murdered eight student nurses with a knife. Died in prison.
Charles Whitman, 1966. killed many from the Texas Tower. Had a tumor on the brain, killed on site.
Then in the 1970s, the mental hospitals were closed down, the crazies declared “sane” enough to walk the streets and murder rates took off like a rocket.
Here is partial list of people who would have been in a MENTAL WARD before many of the ASYLUMS were shut down, crazies declared “sane” and dumped on the streets.
ALL CRAZIES allowed to roam the streets...
Mark David Chapman who murdered John Lennon
John Hinckley Jr. who shot President Reagan
Robert John Bardo who shot Rebecca Schaeffer
David Berkowitz, the .44 Cailber Killer.
Jared Laugher who shot Gabby Giffords.
Pat Purdy, released from a mental hospital, allowed to buy guns, then shot up the Stockton School Yard.
Patrick Sherrill who shot up the Edmond Post office.
James Oliver Huberty who shot so many at MacDonalds
This is just a SHORT LIST t of people who were crazy enough who would have been in a mental hospital before they were closed down in the 1970s.
When you add the MASS MURDERERS and CHURCH and SCHOOL SHOOTERS who would have been shown to be insane but allowed to roam freely you will begin to understand why it is...
LONG PAST TIME TO REOPEN THE MENTAL WARDS AGAIN!
Now we can add another name, Decarlos Brown Jr. who knifed Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska.
Here is an early crazy one.
Richard Lawrence attempted to shoot President Andrew Jackson outside the United States Capitol on January 30, 1835, however both of his pistols misfired and he was taken into custody. At trial, Lawrence was found not guilty by reason of insanity and spent the remainder of his life in insane asylums.


25 posted on 11/19/2025 2:54:25 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE MENTAL HOSPITALS CLOSED IN THE 1970s!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Great movie and Jack Nicholson is great in whatever role he plays.


26 posted on 11/19/2025 3:22:49 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: Kid Shelleen

An anecdote, since you mentioned the Cuckoo’s Nest?

Kesey taught English and Writing classes at University of Oregon for many, many, years. His classes were notoriously difficult to get into unless you were a graduate student. But he loved teaching underclassmen/freshman and did an English class about a semester each year. Most of his teaching was done by his Graduate Teaching Assistants, but he appeared in class several times during the semester for a Freshman English class of about 200.

He was a very likable fellow, very mellow, very passionate. After his son died, he withdrew from teaching considerably after ‘84. Only teaching a couple graduate seminars a year. A couple years later he invited his old friend Tim Leary to speak at a ‘night on campus’ kind of event. Whew.

This was in the late 80s after Leary had come back from his self-imposed ‘exile’ running from the law in California. He would have been in his late 60s then. By that time, Leary had barely any cogent thought, and could barely string two sentences together. (reminds me of Pedo Joe). His brain was so burned, no sober person could understand what point he was trying to make. Backstage, he was lively and just as incoherent. I shook his hand and thanked him for his time. I was stone-cold sober and never did drugs but I just wanted to meet Ken’s friend.

Conclusions?

1. Kesey was ‘pushed into the pool’ but was wearing swim trunks and willing to swim. Not averse, but not knowing what the CIA/MKUltra was doing at the time. He backed out eventually and settled down. I think Kesey remained, as many writers do, wanting to watch and be part of the action, but not ‘cause’ the action.

2. Leary jumped in the drug pool from the high-dive, willingly. Head first. He wanted to be the action. He was already 40 years old in the hippie era of the 70s. Just to get laid. (Kesey was in his 30s, prime of life). Later, Leary was a knowing participant in all the MKUltra and CIA stuff and evidently decided to share it with the masses.

3. Tim Leary has decades of interesting and close connections to all the left-wing people and organizations from the era. Weathermen, Black Panthers, Harvard, Berkeley, West Point, Ohio State, U of Alabama, US Army, Pullman U in Washington state. I cannot imagine that he was not a willing tool for certain intelligence agencies. Despite what Wiki says, he was shielded for years on the run in California by all the hippie groups. And then somehow got overseas. Do the math. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary#

Thanks, Kid, for bringing up old memories.

~Kit


27 posted on 11/19/2025 3:24:08 PM PST by KitJ (Shall not be infringed...)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The movie also inspired Boston Celtic center Robert Parish’s nickname: “Chief”


31 posted on 11/19/2025 3:33:43 PM PST by NonValueAdded (First, I was a clinger, then deplorable, now I'm garbage. Feel the love? )
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Not nearly the same level of quality, but Girl, Interrupted is a good movie with the same setting, from a women’s perspective, and it’s based on a true story.

It’s really interesting to compare the two movies and see the stark difference between male and female mentally ill. Though Cuckoo’s Nest is a complete fiction, so I’m not sure it’s a great comparison.


32 posted on 11/19/2025 4:15:00 PM PST by KobraKai
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To: Kid Shelleen; NautiNurse; DeplorablePaul
Great movie. Hubby and I also got to see Cuckoo's Nest on Broadway back in 2001, starring Gary Sinise. He did a fantastic job as McMurphy.

Also in the audience for that matinee was Christopher Reeve and his wife. The poor guy looked like a cadaver, frozen in his wheelchair. A special wheelchair van picked him up outside the theater after all the audience members left. Such a sad sight. He only lived until 2004.

34 posted on 11/22/2025 12:41:03 PM PST by nutmeg (We are all Charlie Kirk now)
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