Posted on 11/16/2025 6:27:29 AM PST by MtnClimber
The potential for a military clash between Turkey and Israel is growing. There are several colliding points, and each one of them has the potential to become a full-scale war, despite mechanisms designed to avoid conflict.
The most obvious is the Syrian front. Reports indicate that Turkey plans to help Syria’s transitional government develop a military force of approximately 200,000 personnel (approximately 10–15 divisions). Turkey has assumed the role of protector of Syria’s president, Ahmed al-Sharaa (al-Jolani, his nom de guerre). Israel, for its part, has assumed the role of protector of the Druze minority in southwestern Syria, an area that Israel seeks to demilitarize. The establishment of Turkish army and air force bases throughout Syria might be the next step. Should al-Sharaa, with Turkey’s support, seek to forcibly subjugate the Druze or perhaps even the Kurds, clashes between Israel and al-Sharaa’s Turkish overlords would be inevitable.
Another point of contention between Turkey and Israel will likely be Gaza. Israel is adamantly opposed to Turkey being part of the Gaza International Stabilization Force (ISF), not to mention having Turkish troops next to Israel’s borders. Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s affinity toward the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, with whom he shares the Muslim Brotherhood ideology, would, in all likelihood, not force Hamas to disarm and carry out its expulsion from Gaza. Erdoğan is hoping to mobilize all Palestinian factions against Israel and would do everything possible to keep Hamas armed and in control of Gaza. Erdoğan’s positions are religious as well as geopolitical imperatives that he hopes will weaken the Jewish state, if not destroy it outright.
The Mediterranean Sea is another area of disputation between Israel and Turkey. The alliance among Cyprus, Greece, and Israel, which establishes defined territorial boundaries for oil and gas exploration, does not sit well with
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But no, we had to get the CIA involved so we can install our puppet in 1953.
Good reason for Israel to ignore Trump’s new Al Queda BFF Ahmed and refuse to remove a single IDF soldier from Mount Hermon. In fact, arming the Druze in Southern Syria might not be a bad idea.
And out of NATO.
NATO is a relic of the Cold War and needs to be replaced by some other security arrangement, This new arrangement may or may not require the US to be a full time member.
The EU can pick up and work out a new security arrangement for their neighborhood.
But we can't leave NATO right now even if that is what we wanted to do. Obviously, Trump can withdraw but he's not going to get support from the Senate.
Actually I said this!
“...This new arrangement may or may not require the US to be a full time member. ...”
The US can be involved or not. It should depend on the situation and conditions during the formation of the new European security arrangement. Again our involvement could be as a full member or as an “interested observing member” like Sweden was with NATO for years. One of the biggest reasons I think for refusing full membership is whether the Europeans particularly the Germans (very particularly the Germans!), & others (UK & France) take security as a necessary priority. The US should no longer subsidize them! The US would only be a full member if those countries take European defense seriously!
Israel is the nation who is land hungry. They do have the backing of the US. May as well take over the entire Middle East.
Wooo wooo, pleased to meet you.. what’s puzzling you is the nature of my game.
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