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How the Witch of November doomed the ‘Edmund Fitzgerald’
Popular Science ^ | 11/8/2025 | Bill Gourgey

Posted on 11/10/2025 12:43:45 PM PST by Kid Shelleen

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Whenever the November Witch sweeps across the Great Lakes in autumn, mariners know to beware. Hurricane-force winds, born from collisions of lingering summer warmth and frigid Arctic air, can slam into the lakes and set loose 40-foot waves. But unlike an ocean hurricane, which builds for days or weeks, the Witch of November—made famous by Canadian singer Gordon Lightfoot’s 1976 ballad—can transform the lakes from glass to fury in just hours.

To the Anishinaabe, also known as Chippewa, it isn’t a sorceress who terrorizes the largest of the Great Lakes, but a clash between Thunderbirds, wind spirits who rule the upper air, and Mishibijiw, the Great Lynx who guards the lakes’ watery deep. In November, battles between these fearsome rivals can whip the water into chaos.

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To: Bonemaker

The strait between Lake Michigan and Green Bay is called Porte des Morts for a reason - “Deaths Door”.


21 posted on 11/10/2025 2:15:32 PM PST by bigbob (We are all Charlie Kirk now,)
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To: packrat35; Hyman Roth; SaveFerris; gundog

I’ve mentioned this before. My two older brothers are Andrea Doria survivors. They sailed with my grandmother in 1955 so they didn’t have to abandon ship. My grandmother took me in 1960 when I was four (on a different ship). I don’t remember anything about the buffet.


22 posted on 11/10/2025 2:35:33 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Just 1 more...

Live cam from Whitefish Point

https://shipwreckmuseum.com/about/live-weather-cam/


23 posted on 11/10/2025 2:38:54 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (there are demons out there, and they look like people)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

I’ll have you know, I am a survivor of Ella Fitsgerald’s rectum malfunction. I was a comely lad, a society boy.
I saw my old friend Mr. Creosote and sat for an after dinner mint, Ella showed up ... and all hell broke loose.


24 posted on 11/10/2025 2:56:06 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Kid Shelleen
In modern times that incident never should have happened. A lot of things had to go wrong for a ship to sink with the entire crew lost in 1975.

The unsung heroes were the crew members of at least two other ships — the Arthur M. Anderson and the William Clay Ford — who had reached the safety of Whitefish Bay that night but turned around and went back out into the teeth of that epic storm to look for survivors.

25 posted on 11/10/2025 3:14:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Kid Shelleen

My wife and I visited the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum at Whitefish Point back in July 2013.

Very informative.

Interestingly, when we went inside, the weather was bright, sunny, and clear, and the lake was calm, with no noticeable waves. When we came out about 3 hours later, the wind had kicked up, the waves were running 6-8 feet, the sun had disappeared, and it was raining.

A real eye-opener.


26 posted on 11/10/2025 3:32:05 PM PST by chaosagent ( )
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To: rfp1234

#2: "The E. Fitzgerald captain had incriminating info. on Mrs. Bill Clinton?"

Yes Witch of November or Bitch of November.


27 posted on 11/10/2025 3:33:34 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“…he knew it would be his last voyage—not because he had some dark premonition, but because he was set to retire. “

He had that in common with the Captain of the Titanic.


28 posted on 11/10/2025 3:47:15 PM PST by TalBlack (Their god is government. Prepare for a religious war.https://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=4322961%2)
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To: Kid Shelleen

In November 1976, I was on a Great Lakes Freight and the gales of November were getting worse. We left Duluth heading for the Soo locks. The captain headed for a safe calm bay, we anchored and left the next day.

I have often wondered why the captain of the Fitzgerald, McSorley, left Duluth. He had 40 years experience on the Lakes-I wonder if hubris got in the way.


29 posted on 11/10/2025 4:20:23 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Hyman Roth

Yeh, I lost my apartment because of that stupid ship.


30 posted on 11/10/2025 5:07:05 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Hammerhead

👍


31 posted on 11/10/2025 5:12:23 PM PST by Hyman Roth
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To: Kid Shelleen; All

https://youtu.be/rFkyDB2InTs?si=YgqawgnGOctV_mj-


32 posted on 11/10/2025 5:33:29 PM PST by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: Kid Shelleen

Old age and known needed criticwl repairs not performed


33 posted on 11/10/2025 7:04:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Maine Mariner

Interesting animation...kind of goes along with one of the theories of Cap. Cooper of the Anderson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv4n-03mdXg


34 posted on 11/10/2025 8:58:11 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (there are demons out there, and they look like people)
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