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Government Shutdowns and Economic Pain
American Thinker ^ | 31 Oct, 2025 | John F. Di Leo

Posted on 10/31/2025 4:43:27 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Democrats want the entire economy to take a hit.

The federal government has been shut down for a month now.

The leftists primarily responsible for it.

The Democrat minority in the U.S. Senate – are hoping that, politically, the pain inflicted by this shutdown will net out to be a political benefit to the Democratic Party.

Will it?

We don’t really know. You don’t find out for sure where the political fallout landed until long after an event is over, when future elections, long term polling results, and the historians have all had their say.

But there are two groups we are expected to look at first:

First, the federal employees. Hundreds of thousands of government employees – not all of them, but a lot of them – are going without paychecks.

Some of them have savings just for this sort of occurrence, so they were ready for it, and they’re confident that in the end, their pay will be restored retroactively. That’s how it’s always been before, after all, though this is a very new and different year.

But what of the others – the hundreds of thousands of government employees who didn’t have savings to cover such a long shutdown, who can certainly handle food bills for a few weeks but are now falling behind on rent or mortgage, car loans and insurance, utilities and tuition? Every day that goes by gets rougher for them.

And second, the people on assistance – people dependent on SNAP cards and other federal largesse in what’s generally referred to as “the safety net” of our massive welfare state. As food stamps go unreplenished, and housing, cellphones, cable, and other dependencies of all kinds go unfunded, there are millions of recipients getting more worried by the hour.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: leftism
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To: Brian Griffin

Gasoline, milk and eggs are only a portion of the puzzle and really have not dropped all that much, in fact many other items went up certainly not to pre-Biden days..but they have dropped some.


21 posted on 10/31/2025 5:48:13 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: Pete Dovgan

What is happening is the defense of the last DNC redoubt. The futile attempt to gain by negotiating to return what was lost in the Congress is doomed to failure.

Fighting to the last man has been ordered. The question now is the last man really willing to die


22 posted on 10/31/2025 5:48:14 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: dpetty121263

Beans and rice and cornmeal do not require refrigeration


23 posted on 10/31/2025 5:52:14 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: yldstrk

Some more than 4000...as they are on UTube bragging.


24 posted on 10/31/2025 5:52:30 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: bert

Very true as these SNAP people are in fact Wards of the State.


25 posted on 10/31/2025 5:53:31 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: MtnClimber

“Good Evening, BRIAN GRIFFIN
Oct 22 2025
CMS MEDICARE PREMIUMS WEB
Amount: negative five hundred fifty five dollars– $555.00
Running Balance: two hundred ninety five dollars and eighty three cents$295.83”

That’s $185/month (regardless of my <<100% of FPL income), over $2,200/year, for no care whatsoever so far, two years in.


26 posted on 10/31/2025 5:54:48 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

Democrats loved canceling Thanksgiving for Covid. They hate family traditions.If republicans win every election next week the shutdown will end.


27 posted on 10/31/2025 6:09:13 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: MtnClimber

yams 78¢/pound
bananas 54¢/pound
apples, Gala $2.98/3#
avocados ~$1.80/pound

GV corn, 15.25 oz. can, $.50
GV green beans, 14.25 oz. can, $.50
GV French style green beans, 14.25 oz. can, $.50

GV parboiled rice, 32 oz., $1.64
GV split peas, dried, 16 oz., $1.42
GV lentils, dried, 16 oz., $1.92
GV lentils, dried, 64 oz., $5.98
GV blackeye peas, dried, 16 oz., $1.66
GV black beans, dried, 16 oz., $1.50
GV kidney beans, dried, 16 oz., $1.22
GV lima beans, dried, 16 oz., $1.98
GV baby lima beans, dried, 16 oz., $1.98
GV red beans, dried, 16 oz., $1.42
GV Great Northern beans, dried, 16 oz., $1.87

Honey Nut Os cereal, 21.6 oz., $3.12
Toasted Os cereal, 12 oz., $1.83
Kellogg’s Raisin Bran, 29.5 oz., $5.64
Aldi Corn Flakes, 18 oz., $2.19

GV pasta, 16 oz., 98¢
GV pasta sauce, 24 oz., $1.67

6” white corn tortillas, 80 count, $2.97

Tyson chicken, whole $1.46/pound
Tyson chicken, thighs $1.77/pound


28 posted on 10/31/2025 6:15:48 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

Note for $28 (the weekly $2/day amount for two people), one can buy:
two pounds of chicken for ~$5,
four pounds of pasta for ~$4,
seven cans of vegetables for ~$5,
a gallon of milk for ~$3,
two loaves of bread for ~$3, and
a box of cereal (or a bag of fruit) for ~$3,

and still have ~$5 left over for say buying

a 10-pound bag of potatoes one week, or
a bag of sugar and 100 tea bags another week, or
a pound of butter and two boxes of store brand macaroni & cheese another week, or
12 eggs and two boxes of cake mix yet another week.


29 posted on 10/31/2025 6:23:12 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MtnClimber

The American federal government, the most indebted entity on the planet, should NOT continue to function as a charity. The looting of the United States of America through the federal government needs to end.


30 posted on 10/31/2025 6:25:33 AM PDT by reaganator
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To: yldstrk

A friend told me of a “TikTok Influencer” who has 6 kids, a BMW and Range Rover, and gets $10,000 per month.


31 posted on 10/31/2025 6:31:49 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Make educ institutions return to the Mission...reading, writing, math...not Opinions & propaganda)
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To: MtnClimber

“double”

Steak Dinner

$1, Cafe Biden
$2.14, Cafe Trump

NOTE: That’s indicative of PPACA subsidy discounts, on average

*****************

My American dentist pays $1600/month for health insurance

There are millions of Democrats getting PPACA health insurance for $0/month


32 posted on 10/31/2025 6:33:27 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: dpetty121263

“This is the Trump economy”

No this is the after effects of 4 years of the Biden insanity. If it was not for all the things Trump is rapidly deploying we would be in much worse shape.


33 posted on 10/31/2025 7:19:53 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; dpetty121263
Agreed, Georgia Girl 2. And the price of groceries are about to go down bigly with the end of SNAP fraud (that many people are becoming aware of for the first time) and also the deportation of illegals.

Less people --> less demand for food --> lower food prices.

Less govt subsidy of food (or anything else) --> less artificial inflation of prices at the register to take in more of that govt money.

Just like everything else the govt subsidizes to "help" us with, those of us who don't get the subsidy (SNAP) have to pay the higher prices that were inflated to take in that guaranteed govt money from other consumers.

34 posted on 10/31/2025 8:04:58 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

Price of groceries or anything rarely goes down.

A percentage have been deported but still a tremendous amount are still here...and will remind as it is a numbers vs time game.

Govt subsidies are a generational thing and not likely to stop till certain hard stops are put in place. Your crime levels will go up for many things...


35 posted on 10/31/2025 8:23:53 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: MtnClimber

There are people hurting because of the government shut down. Overwhelmingly those people are democrats. They are overwhelmingly illegals, government employees and people one government services (handouts).

Republicans (the rest of us) who are not getting freebees from the government are not interested in a deal. We will be very very mad at Trump if he reopens the government. Especially if he spends even one dime to do it. We are the ones who voted for Trump because the government is spending too much money. We don’t want a balanced budget. We want a smaller budget. We don’t want to grow the government revenues. We want to shrink the government expenses. We don’t believe for one minute that the government is spending money wisely. We believe the government has far more money than it needs to provide all the services necessary for a first rate country. We have enough money for the military and the social programs if the money was spent wisely.

So Trump will lose if he reopens the government with a good deal. We want no deal if it means more spending. We are happy with the government being closed. And those people complaining are democrats.


36 posted on 10/31/2025 8:48:53 AM PDT by poinq (thics and customs and did not take an oath to the country. And did not follow the country's traditio)
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To: dpetty121263
Govt subsidies are a generational thing and not likely to stop till certain hard stops are put in place. Your crime levels will go up for many things...

I respectfully disagree. There's talk. Then there's reality. Do we have historical precedent? Yup. Remember the 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act? That was the last year of Clinton's first term, Congressional Republicans' Contract with America (New Gingrich) had won the midterms, pressuring Clinton to cut spending, using a shutdown, to agree to add work requirements to welfare. Dims every now and then bring up this era as "when Bill Clinton balanced the budget".

So what happened with crime occurrences after the 1996 bill was passed and reduced welfare? According to https://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm:

Year / Total Crimes
1996 13,493,863 (the year the act was passed)
1997 13,194,571
1998 12,475,634
1999 11,634,378
2000 11,608,072

Crime activity didn't rise. It declined.

37 posted on 10/31/2025 9:00:04 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: MtnClimber

The more concerning thing is how massive the government has become, and how many leeches it has created. Welfare leeches in the corporate world, the non working generational welfare leeches crowd, the bureaucratic leech crowd. I don’t get anything from the government but a tax bill. The government shut my business down for kung flu. So I say SCREW EM. I don’t care. I don’t feel the least bit bad for anyone losing money. Not a one.


38 posted on 10/31/2025 10:59:17 AM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

The message & the evidence about the Democrat disregard for the welfare of America needs to shouted long & loud. They worry about illegals more than Americans & this is all wrong. If one had to apply for an American license to stay here, I’d say there could be several of those licenses that could be revoked today.


39 posted on 10/31/2025 12:24:22 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: Tell It Right

Never had Welfare cut off either so take that into account.


40 posted on 10/31/2025 2:07:57 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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