Posted on 10/30/2025 2:22:40 AM PDT by MarlonRando
Thomas John Pizzitola suffered a traumatic brain injury during an altercation near Pattie's First Avenue Lounge in Scottsdale at around 2am on October 11.
Police arrested five suspects on October 22, including Drew Meneses, who faces a second-degree murder charge after he allegedly threw the fatal sucker punch.
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millions of other 20 somethings weren’t out at 2am.
you ask of another commenter “How old are you?” which can be answered by:
Age doesn’t matter as much as wisdom and thinking ahead do, And people very young to very old fall all along the spectrum for having wisdom or thinking ahead.
You are right, that “loose” focus can also add to a problem.
100%
I have heard of several people being killed by one punch or blow to the head.
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Falling unrestrained and hitting your head on the concrete will do it.
The guy who threw the punch got 14 years, 10 for manslaughter, 4 for parole violations .
I’m astonished at the reflexive victim shaming taking place on this thread. One would think that the guy snuck up on himself and punched himself in the back of the head, his own self.
The holes in the Swiss cheese lined up.
29 is not “twenty something.” It’s a full blown adult.
Getting rowdy in bars is something most people grow out of long before that age. I realized that as I aged, bar fights went from being rowdy to being potential assault and other felony charges. No thanks.
No one should get killed in a bar fight. I am not letting the other guy off the hook. But, at almost 30 with a kid coming the victim should have been a bit smarter.
“At 29, with a new baby coming…he should have never been there.”
Sounds like the kind of guy that would be there even after the birth........................
Murder 2 is the right answer for a charge. One of the standards is “reckless disregard”. Man 2 is typically negligence and Man 1 might be that reckless disregard with a mitigating factor (insulted your mother).
The ol’ “nothing good ever happens after 11 pm”.
That's why revolvers hold 6 cartridges!
5 on one is not fun
Oh come on, in every Hollywood movie a chick can beat up 5 guys at once.
My thoughts as well.
Nothing good ever happens.
Turn around quietly and walk out.
Why is he in a bar at 2 AM?
At 29, with a new baby coming…he should have never been there.
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He shouldn’t have been there at all, at any time. Dangerous losers frequent places like that. They’ll pick a fight with you for no reason.
Nothing good happens in bars.
Should have been home with his family.
“He shouldn’t have…..!”
Why not blame it on the demon liquor?
Reintroduce the Volstead Act?
Justice Idealism.
Things like this should never happen…but they do.
They should be all put away for life…won’ bring him back from the dead.
Victim Responsibility
He shouldn’t have been there at 2AM?
He should have been polite to these thugs?
He failed in his situational awareness?
He gave his back to the most dangerous man there?
What did he say that triggered them?
Religion
Why would God allow this to happen?
It was his time?
Society
The assailants and the murderer were not illegal aliens, but what would you be saying if they were?
What if the murderer was a Black illegal?
What if the murderer was mentally ill?
What if the victim was elderly, or a pretty girl?
Blah blah blah.
If anyone would like some useful information on interpersonal violence may I suggest someone?
Marc (aka Animal) McYoung
nononsenseselfdefense.com
The author there consults with and trains police departments.
He and his wife also consult with Hollywood on “realistic” violence.
Check it out!
You won’t agree with everything.
He will call bs on your favorite martial arts system.
Just listen.
Let us know what you think?
BDP
A lot of AA meetings traditionally end at 9PM and they need time to get home.
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