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1 posted on 10/29/2025 4:37:58 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Really only a limited number of people who want overpriced gold carts, just not practical and too expensive for your average citizen.


2 posted on 10/29/2025 4:41:30 AM PDT by Skwor
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Several auto makers listed their MSRP before the subsidies were announced. Later when the vehicles hit the showroom, I noticed the MSRPs had jumped commensurate with the subsidy. It’s like Target raising the price of something X% before a sale of X% off. If you want a good example of Net Zero, that’s it.


4 posted on 10/29/2025 4:44:18 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Has anyone seen my tagline? ...I know it was here...)
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I own a 2022 model SUV, but 4 months ago bought a tiny 2010 Fiat 500 with little to no electronics - to zip around town.

I find my big SUV can get comparable fuel efficiency to the 12 years older Fiat.

Cars are improving their fuel efficiency and if you add in hybrids, then there may not be such a BIG market for pure play EVs. I think there will still be a market, but not for all cases.


6 posted on 10/29/2025 4:47:36 AM PDT by Cronos
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It’s almost like government subsidies are a false prop for marginal products, products that fail if said props are removed.


7 posted on 10/29/2025 4:49:44 AM PDT by AT7Saluki (No cejar, no ceder)
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“Automotive executives also believe the EV market will stabilize and continue to grow over time. Both Ford’s current CEO and former CEO agreed on that point recently. Obviously, only time will tell.”
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We’ll see, but that’s the way it should have always been.

Let the consumer decide whether there is a market or not.....instead of the federal government shoving them down our throats.


11 posted on 10/29/2025 4:54:35 AM PDT by V_TWIN (RIP Charlie Kirk)
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I would expect the October sales to be well of the mark because ending of subsidies brought demand forward. I think it will take a couple of months before we a better picture of how bad sales will be...


13 posted on 10/29/2025 5:01:25 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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Even with the subsidies these EVs were sold at huge losses for most auto manufacturers. This has been the single biggest factor in the massive price inflation we have seen among ALL vehicles since 2021. These companies ran up their prices on their ICE vehicles just to stay in business.


14 posted on 10/29/2025 5:04:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Nobody sits a horse like Monte Walsh.")
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Meanwhile. while EV sales are getting battered, Tesla stock closed at a new all time high yesterday high yesterday and is up more than 70% since he left the administration. The best thing Elon did for his pocket is to get out of politics and away from the crazies burning down his franchises.


16 posted on 10/29/2025 5:09:07 AM PDT by chuckee
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With Bill Gates announcement that climate change is no longer a priority, there will be even less EV sales.


17 posted on 10/29/2025 5:09:41 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ( Covfefe! )
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Last I knew, almost half the existing homes in this country still have a 60A electrical service.

Residential zoning codes will prevent others from plugging in.

That’s gonna limit the market.


18 posted on 10/29/2025 5:14:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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We were renting a car in Albuquerque recently and I said we do not want an EV. Counter guy said no problem, we don’t have any as they are not practical here. How about a dodge charger. Done!


19 posted on 10/29/2025 5:15:39 AM PDT by Mouton (There is a new sheriff and deputy in town now!)
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The fad is over.


21 posted on 10/29/2025 5:20:25 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Thanks to King Hakeem "Skyhook", Amerika now has an official Socialist DemonRAT Party. )
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The September numbers are only that high BECAUSE the credits are expiring.


22 posted on 10/29/2025 5:22:13 AM PDT by 3RIVRS
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There’s only one reason any type of product needs to be subsidized.


23 posted on 10/29/2025 5:28:13 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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I’m guessing when they cut back on production & the price is increased that there will be an effort to cut factory prices. You can guess what this will mean; less features & lower quality. Doesn’t matter to me; maybe they will go back to building something there is a demand for.


27 posted on 10/29/2025 5:50:26 AM PDT by oldtech
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EVs! DIE! DIE! DIE!

Not to despair, though. EV's will be ready to compete around the same time Nuclear Fusion becomes commercially viable, on a continually rolling 20 year window!


All kidding aside, I am not against EVs per se. I am against being MANDATED to buy EVs by the government, I am against my taxpayer money being spent to force me to by EVs, I am against forcing EVERYONE to buy an EV while the infrastructure to make that work DOES NOT EXIST.

But I believe people can and should be able to buy and drive EVs if they fit their lifestyle choices, and I believe manufacturers should be free to produce and sell them without government subsidies from my taxes. There are a lot of people to whom and EV makes sense (those who also own an ICE vehicle for long trips, those who only drive a short distance each day and can recharge their car at home, that kind of thing)

I love the concept of EV technology, but doing it without having the underlying infrastructure and energy generation and transmission capability in place, or for STUPID and FAKE reasons such as "protecting the environment" or "reversing or stopping "Climate Change" is a totally abhorrent action.

29 posted on 10/29/2025 5:57:41 AM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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EV graveyards in China ,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCh2N0NJ6M4


33 posted on 10/29/2025 6:19:41 AM PDT by butlerweave (Fateh)
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Well, duuhhh!


34 posted on 10/29/2025 6:23:11 AM PDT by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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Team Biden made a crucial error when they attempted to force EVs on the public. Let the free market decide. If and when EVs can compete in price and quality, AND the infrastructure is built for mass charging (both outside and at home), then the consumer will make the choice about what they want.


36 posted on 10/29/2025 6:27:48 AM PDT by Kharis13 (-)
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That’s too bad.


37 posted on 10/29/2025 6:28:37 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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