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Republicans Who Have Rarely Opposed Trump Raise Questions About His Drug War
NEW YORK TIMES ^ | Oct 25 | By Robert Jimison and Megan Mineiro

Posted on 10/25/2025 3:00:42 AM PDT by RandFan

A growing number of Republicans on Capitol Hill have raised concerns about President Trump’s expanding war against drug cartels carried out without consultation or authorization by Congress, and are pressing for more information and involvement in a campaign whose legal basis remains murky.

Most in the group have not expressed explicit opposition to the strikes that have been carried out so far against boats in the Caribbean Sea and, this week, expanded to the Pacific. The vast majority of Republicans have enthusiastically rallied behind them, and this month, all but two of them voted to block a measure that would terminate the president’s campaign.

But for a G.O.P.-led Congress that has seldom questioned Mr. Trump on any matter, foreign or domestic, the skepticism reflects a rare and potentially significant bit of dissent over a widening war.

“We have oversight responsibilities, and we expect to get our questions answered,” Senator Mike Rounds, Republican of South Dakota and a member of the Armed Services Committee, said in an interview on Wednesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: RandFan

International Courts are just legal masturbation, our Constitution considers them null and void and thats all a President or Congress member needs to care about, IMHO.


81 posted on 10/25/2025 5:13:57 AM PDT by epluribus_2 (!)
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To: RandFan
Your argument rests on the facts that you can't have. I can't have. It is the nature of the operation used to stop the drug distribution system at sea. What you are doing is called "clutching at pearls." We didn't win WWII from second guessing what the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force in Europe, General Dwight D. Eisenhower decided for a winning strategy. The one fact to remember, this is WAR against terrorist drug operators who are killing our citizens. It is about China! It is not just the overdoses; it is the drug gangs killing others to control their market.

I might add, that it is the use of these drugs to control women used in the sex slave system. How would like it if someone got your daughter, sister or mother hooked on these drugs so they can use them for prostitution?

82 posted on 10/25/2025 5:14:20 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Openurmind

Blah blah blah


83 posted on 10/25/2025 5:14:33 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: RandFan

Lankford? Of Comprehensive Immigration Reform fame?

Given how much his governmental star has dimmed in the past couple of years, it makes sense that he’d be seeking opportunities to throw a little sand in the administration’s gears.


84 posted on 10/25/2025 5:15:25 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: RandFan

Diplomacy by more “persuasive” means.

Why not just grab some popcorn and soda, RF? Watch the new channel.


85 posted on 10/25/2025 5:18:29 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: jonrick46

A comment on policy and executive action in pre-DoD America.

Pre-DoD, we has a Department of the Navy, and a Department of War.

The mostly unlegislated, unspoken agreement in the American polity was that what the President needed to do to protect the country, that he could do with the Navy (and the Marines, who were part of the Navy), he could do without obtaining a declaration of war from Congress.

If he needed the Army, if the Department of War was needed, it was time for - TA-DA - a declaration of war.

This was operational and basically worked for the first ~170 years of this country’s existence, before the creation of the combined DoD.

What we are seeing is very much in line with American history.


86 posted on 10/25/2025 5:18:32 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: epluribus_2

The Constitution is no longer valid once a vessel is more than 12 miles from shore. There is no real law in international waters. Any “law” out there is a contrivance of treaties that are mostly ineffective.

It’s always a good day to blow up a pirate vessel.


87 posted on 10/25/2025 5:21:49 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: RandFan
I just dont think they deserve an instant “death penalty” with no due process, etc.

Hahaha. Really?! Maybe the military men should shoot the bad guys in their leg or gun hand and send in counselors to talk it out.

it’s a great thing there are real men making the tough decisions so you can sleep at night all safe and sound.
88 posted on 10/25/2025 5:22:32 AM PDT by The Louiswu (USA FIRST...USA FOREVER)
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To: RandFan

The lawyers are threatened by any activity not tightly controlled by lawyers.


89 posted on 10/25/2025 5:29:52 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: central_va

Thank you for the immature example, that is the level of intelligence I was expecting. There are no adults in the room. It has become an echo board just like Bluesky.


90 posted on 10/25/2025 5:30:40 AM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: RandFan


"You dont KNOW for sure they’re drug boats"


You truly ARE an F'n idiot.
91 posted on 10/25/2025 5:31:00 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: epluribus_2

Spot on! China is in on, what looks to me, a chemical attack on our population. There are many BAD actors making money from the economy of the drug market. All create bad consequences. Not only is there the overdose deaths but those involved in the distribution are killing each other to protect their market. Also, these drugs are used to control women used as sex slaves. Their lives are destroyed by their greedy owners. Less mothers to raise the next generation.

It is the corruption of elected officials to disrupt ICE efforts to round up criminals involved in the Industrial Drug Business, that is disturbing. Lucky President Trump has the legal experience to block the judges throwing legal wrenches into the ICE operations.

The attraction to make a big income selling drugs takes people out of making a normal income based on their skill. That takes them away from learning a skill, getting an education and being responsible to a family and the next generation. It undermines our society—something China aims to do.


92 posted on 10/25/2025 5:41:15 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: RandFan

I’ve got Rand fatigue.


93 posted on 10/25/2025 5:44:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I figure if Charlie Kirk can die for free speech, I can be mildly inconvenienced.)
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To: RandFan

Rand is wound up about the boat crews? Here’s the deal; everyone who ever tried weed or coke knows that what they’re doing is illegal and has legal consequences. Every single one. Getting caught with a joint is a problem. Getting caught with more contraband is a bigger problem. Getting caught with tons of cocaine has bigger penalties than getting caught with a roach in the ashtray. And they know it.


94 posted on 10/25/2025 5:47:08 AM PDT by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: RandFan; All

Reading something from the Times is like asking Satan for guidance.

That you don’t know that tells all of us a lot about you.

Do you think the Times is interested in anything but dividing conservatives?

It’s why you posted this, to divide under the guise of being fair minded.

RF, divider and muckraker.


95 posted on 10/25/2025 5:50:52 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: RandFan
You dont KNOW for sure they’re drug boats

Naw, they're just innocent fishermen, trolling for tuna at 60 knots.

96 posted on 10/25/2025 5:58:28 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: jonrick46

I bet there’s a fair number of our “honorable” members of Congress getting support in some way by gangs and/or the cartels


97 posted on 10/25/2025 5:58:46 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: RandFan
You tag says all I need to know about your opinion.

due process for drug runners and dealers is over rated.

And arguing with you would lead to your continuing to say " but what if?" Ad nauseum. So can it RINO.

98 posted on 10/25/2025 5:59:56 AM PDT by Ikeon (Kill me, and I'll become more powerful than you could ever imagine. )
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To: RandFan

DEO & our military know.
They know who are in the trade, who is in each boat. The pictures of those boats show dozens of gas cans and packages of drugs filling the boats. The factors leading to targeting has been made clear in the Press conferences.

The leftist media, Rand Paul & his fans gloss over that inconvenient fact to spin their attack on Trump. Rand Paul is exposing himself by his disingenuous, hypocritical, self serving self righteousness.

This is one of many stories about the targets of these strikes
“Overnight, at the direction of President Trump, the Department of War carried out a lethal kinetic strike on a vessel operated by Tren de Aragua (TdA), a Designated Terrorist Organization (DTO), trafficking narcotics in the Caribbean Sea,” War Secretary Pete Hegseth announced on X, sharing an accompanying video of the strike. “The vessel was known by our intelligence to be involved in illicit narcotics smuggling, was transiting along a known narco-trafficking route, and carrying narcotics.”

“Six male narco-terrorists were aboard the vessel during the strike, which was conducted in international waters — and was the first strike at night,” he said. “All six terrorists were killed and no U.S. forces were harmed in this strike.”

https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-kills-6-suspected-narco-terrorists-overnight-strike-alleged-drug-smuggling-boat-hegseth-says


99 posted on 10/25/2025 6:13:50 AM PDT by JayGalt (For America!)
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To: RandFan

I DON”T CARE...either it’s drugs or illegals....sorry not sorry I’m so crass. But I’m so tired of excusing all these losers.


100 posted on 10/25/2025 6:15:03 AM PDT by krug
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