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Disappointment in Kyiv as Zelensky leaves White House empty-handed
BBC ^ | October 18, 2025 | John Sudworth

Posted on 10/18/2025 11:59:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Trump says he has faith in Putin, but Zelensky does not

One word sticks out in the Ukrainian leader's description of his latest high-stakes foray into the nerve-centre of American power.

His White House conversation with President Donald Trump, Volodymyr Zelensky wrote on X, was "pointed".

But we don't need to parse his semantic description of the exchange to know that this was not the meeting that the Ukrainian side had been expecting.

If the old British adage holds true that a week is a long time in politics, then Zelensky appears to have set a new record.

A short transatlantic flight, it seems, is now an age.

As they set off for Washington on Thursday, the Ukrainian side was in high spirits.

Listen to the words of Ruslan Stefanchuk, the speaker of Ukraine's parliament – effectively the country's second in command – and a politician fiercely loyal to Zelensky.

In an interview with the BBC shortly before the president's plane took off, Stefanchuk described the trip as a "very important historical moment".

The meeting, he said, would leave the world in no doubt that Trump "finally understands that Putin is a liar, he can't be trusted, and actions are needed to stop the war".

And, he appeared to suggest, the crucial question for Ukraine – whether Trump would agree to its use of American long-range Tomahawk missiles - was close to being "solved".

But it was as Zelensky's flight was in the air that news of the two-and-a-half-hour Trump-Putin phone call began to emerge and, before its wheels were even on the Washington tarmac, we had the announcement that another summit between the two was in the offing.

The Ukrainians descended the steps, to be met with a low-key American greeting, and with their optimism, like a piece of waylaid luggage, lost somewhere en route.

Trump tells BBC Putin 'wants to make...'

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: zelensky

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1 posted on 10/18/2025 11:59:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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2 posted on 10/18/2025 12:10:29 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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3 posted on 10/18/2025 12:12:50 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

LOL. Zelensky went back to his Kiev Bath House empty handed..
No commitment of Tomahawks for the Global Gypsy.


4 posted on 10/18/2025 12:33:36 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: All

Kiev avg temps 2022, 23, 24 have been 2-3 degs C above the long term average.

AI predicts about 1 degree above long term average this winter, but with more cold snaps going much colder than 0 degs C over the several months than in the past 3 yrs


5 posted on 10/18/2025 12:45:24 PM PDT by Owen
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What was Trump thinking?

This clown thinks that if he has Tomahawks, he will win the war...Putin will give up the land he now occupies and Santa Claus will bring him a new Schwinn.

6 posted on 10/18/2025 12:49:41 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Mark Rutte talked smack the other day, about how the Europeans were so mighty. So here's a simple question. Why haven't Europe's militaristic “leaders” not already allied formally with the Z government, and marched their troops in to the battle? Doesn't have to be all of NATO. Could be Germany, France, the UK and some Baltic folks. So why aren't they being “kinetic?”
7 posted on 10/18/2025 1:22:49 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Mark Rutte talked smack the other day, about how the Europeans were so mighty. So here’s a simple question. Why haven’t Europe’s militaristic “leaders” not already allied formally with the Z government, and marched their troops in to the battle? Doesn’t have to be all of NATO. Could be Germany, France, the UK and some Baltic folks. So why aren’t they being “kinetic?

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Because the Europeans are pussies.

They’re also financial deadbeats that are a drain on the United States.(I would exempt the UK who historically actually pays their debt.)


8 posted on 10/18/2025 1:31:35 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Meanwhile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3QWMheLQC8

No Tomahawks For Ukraine🚀🚫Pokrovsk Will Fall In The Coming Days🏢⏳💥Military Summary For 2025.10.18


Vlad to meet President Orban of Hungary, a humiliation for the EU war cheerleaders, Ivan continues offensives all across the line of contact, yet another paralyzing missile drone/ missile attack on Ukraine, and more.


9 posted on 10/18/2025 2:16:21 PM PDT by delta7
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If Zelensky is depending on the United States, he’s wasting his time. The U.S. has been screwing Ukraine since the 1990’s. Not only that, but he has to deal with the freak Putin fans that occupy this website.


10 posted on 10/18/2025 4:15:46 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

You Putin fans must really be preoccupied with your masculinity,.


11 posted on 10/18/2025 4:16:52 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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You Putin fans must really be preoccupied with your masculinity,.

I don't work for the Kremlin anymore. The new AI says I'm a Haji asset now:

President Trump is going to deport you back to India, Sangish. Pack your bags.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4344379/posts?page=9#9
12 posted on 10/18/2025 4:38:10 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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The little fool Zelensky needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. He would have done better to have said nothing and smiled. Russia is not nearly as bad an enemy to Ukraine as Zelensky is.


13 posted on 10/19/2025 1:28:37 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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