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Hear me out: instead of faster chargers, we should lobby for SLOWER gas pumps
electrek.co ^ | 10/11/2025 | Jo Borras

Posted on 10/14/2025 10:04:42 AM PDT by Signalman

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To: Signalman

“Meanwhile, the well-adjusted normals figure out real quick that it’s better, cheaper, and easier to charge at home.”

yeah, like the power grid would support more than 1 in 10 charging at home ... and then of course, anyone living in an apartment building or a high rise would be screwed as well ...


41 posted on 10/14/2025 11:03:55 AM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: Signalman; All

And with this article we now see that all this cr@p about the environment is just that. Cr@p. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the environment and EVERYTHING to do with control. EV’s while nice are NOT 0 emission. You need to take into account how everything is manufactured, mined and assembled. Nevermind that the “clean” energy used to charge you vehicle comes primarily from N.G., coal, nuclear energy and not from the oh so precious solar and wind..... in other words the stupidity of this article is flabbergasting.....


42 posted on 10/14/2025 11:07:25 AM PDT by Still a Patriot
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To: sphinx

There’s now way the gas pumps are flowing at 10 gpm. It takes me far more than 1.5 minutes to fill my Mustang which usually takes about 15 gallons. In fact, the flow rates vary wildly depending on which station that you go to.

All gas pumps have had vapor capturing collars since about 1992. So slowing down the pumps further is unnecessary from an environmental standpoint.


43 posted on 10/14/2025 11:08:06 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: GenXPolymath
Please do not post your AI generated garbage to me.
44 posted on 10/14/2025 11:08:56 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It's like somebody just put the Constitution up on a wall …. and shot the First Amendment -Mike Rowe)
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To: Signalman

“Everybody wins”

Nope, you’re still a total “looser”, Jo.


45 posted on 10/14/2025 11:16:18 AM PDT by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: Signalman
Losers always seek a way to hobble their competition.
46 posted on 10/14/2025 11:17:16 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: stevio
It was about 50 years ago that it took two days to fill your gas tank, during the oil embargo with its “even/odd” days, sitting in line for hours on end. Some days, you were limited to five gallons, give or take.

The stupid, it hurts.

47 posted on 10/14/2025 11:23:51 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It! I’m )
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To: Signalman
Everybody wins

Except for the people he wants to punish.

Where do these fools think electricity comes from anyway? Did they ever count the environmental costs of "green" energy? They won't do that until they kill fossil fuel; then they'll calculate and decide most of us should stay in our 15 minute zones, in the dark or heat or cold as nature willa.

48 posted on 10/14/2025 11:25:03 AM PDT by heartwood (Please blame all ridiculous or iinappropriate words on autocorrect. Thank you. )
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To: Signalman

Get stuffed, Jo!


49 posted on 10/14/2025 11:49:19 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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To: Signalman

This article reminds me why I hate electric vehicles and everyone pushing them.


50 posted on 10/14/2025 11:52:26 AM PDT by cgbg ("The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it.")
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To: Signalman

DRILL BABY DRILL... the California coast is considered US territoy. Pull millions maybe billions of gallons of crude and save the beaches from the tar.


51 posted on 10/14/2025 12:02:44 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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To: Signalman
The first electric "cars" were created almost 200 years ago, yet they still take longer to 'refuel' than a gasoline-powered car did a hundred years ago.

There's a message in there that most folks don't seem to grasp.

52 posted on 10/14/2025 12:25:56 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Celerity

EXCELLENT!


53 posted on 10/14/2025 12:56:48 PM PDT by drwoof
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To: Signalman

What about getting government the hell out of having any authority whatsoever about how, when, and with what we fuel our vehicles?

There is no constitutional justification for *any* regulation of any machinery or appliances unless and until they are actually damaging property or people.


54 posted on 10/14/2025 1:21:23 PM PDT by Aeneas2112 (Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war. Donald Trump)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III
Fast charging damages overall battery health and shortens battery life. To this day, the battery manuals state that to maximize battery life, only charge up to 80%, and do not let the charge go below 20%.

LFP batteries are more forgiving than lNMC batteries in this regard. However, LFP batteries weigh more and hold less charge. Something to consider when buying an EV.

55 posted on 10/14/2025 2:35:33 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: GenXPolymath

Lots of people looking for “investors”, lots of experimental stuff, but I didn’t see much in the way of industrial scale recycling actually producing. Repurposing is not recycling.


56 posted on 10/14/2025 2:38:48 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Signalman
Utilities, state governments, and private developers are racing to roll out faster, more powerful EV chargers. At the same time, automakers and tech giants across the globe are pouring billions into R&D to develop batteries that can take ever-higher levels of power.

First of all they're making the common mistake of not understanding the difference between power and energy. To charge a battery it requires a certain amount of energy (kWh or J). To deliver that certain amount of energy in a shorter period of time requires an electrical service of higher power (kW).

What these dim bulbs (sic) don't realize is that the capacity to deliver that higher power would require upgrades in the electrical system all the way back to the distribution substation.

57 posted on 10/14/2025 2:44:32 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Locomotive Breath

Ditto with providing power to the charging stations. That said, battery chemistry is also a big factor. The charge rate isn’t constant. It is doubtful that any EV battery can accept the advertised charging rate listed on the hyper fast charging stations. Once the battery capacity hits around 50 to 60% the charging rate starts to slow. At 80%, it isn’t worth the time to charge the last 20%.


58 posted on 10/14/2025 3:37:51 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: Signalman
The rest will take care of itself

There are lots of ways to take care of things.

59 posted on 10/14/2025 4:35:18 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Signalman

“well-adjusted normals”

Oh yeah, this guy really sounds well-adjusted and normal. /s

Maybe they should just have the regular gas pumps dispense diesel or gas contaminated with water to get people to switch to EV. /s


60 posted on 10/14/2025 5:17:34 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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