Posted on 10/07/2025 3:40:13 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
There’s been lots of discussion about which tech companies will be the biggest losers from President Donald Trump’s broad assault on H-1B visas for highly skilled foreign workers, including a $100,000 fee for each new visa recipient. But the impact could be felt first by universities, says Jeremy Neufeld, the director of immigration policy at the Institute for Progress, a nonpartisan Washington think tank.
That's because the fee won’t apply to companies until next March, when the annual lottery for the roughly 85,000 new commercial H-1B visas awarded each year, takes place. Meanwhile, universities and certain other research and not-for-profit organizations benefit from an exemption that allows them to apply for visas year round, outside the 85,000 cap or the lottery. “The universities are on the frontlines and this is just a pure tax on their pipeline,” declares Neufeld.
It’s not just the fee that could hit universities hard. Another part of the Trump Administration’s September H-1B attack is a proposal to shift the rules of the visa lottery to favor older (and hence, presumably higher-paid) workers. That makes it harder for foreign students who graduate from U.S. universities with PhDs and master’s degrees to stay here to work–which has always been part of the payoff of a U.S. education. Moreover, the H-1B proposal comes on top of rules changes the Administration proposed in August for F-1 student visas, which would put new time limits on these visas and make it harder for foreign graduates of U.S. colleges and universities to use the Optional Practical Training (OPT) program. OPT has allowed foreign students to stay after graduation and get work experience for one year, or three years if they majored in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math) subjects.
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Because of scale , because there over a billion of them, there are a lot of high IQ Indians to strip mine for indentured servitude and to displace US workers in the USA.
FWLIW I was not surprised to see Emory in that list, and somewhat surprised to not see GA Tech.
Maybe more H1Bs in medical research? 🤷🏻
I asked Grok how many Indians from India are two deviations above the average Indian IQ and how many Americans are 1 deviation above the average, because the average American IQ is already 1 deviation above the average IQ of India.
Results
Indians (India) ≥ 2σ above Indian mean1122.28% ~33.3 million
Americans ≥ 1σ above US mean11315.87% ~55.1 million
Explanation
Indians: 0.0228 × 1,460,000,000 ≈ 33,288,000.
Americans: 0.1587 × 347,000,000 ≈ 55,058,900.
There are more Americans (55.1 million) who are 1 deviation above the US average than Indians (33.3 million) who are 2 deviations above the Indian average. This reflects the US’s higher baseline IQ combined with its smaller population—despite India’s vast size, the rarer tail (top 2.28%) yields fewer individuals than the broader US tail (top 15.87%). These are approximations; real distributions may have slight deviations from perfect normality due to environmental factors.
I asked Grok how many Indians from India are two deviations above the average Indian IQ and how many Americans are 1 deviation above the average, because the average American IQ is already 1 deviation above the average IQ of India.
Results
Indians (India) ≥ 2σ above Indian mean 112(IQ) 2.28% ~33.3 million
Americans ≥ 1σ above US mean 113(IQ) 15.87% ~55.1 million
Explanation
Indians: 0.0228 × 1,460,000,000 ≈ 33,288,000.
Americans: 0.1587 × 347,000,000 ≈ 55,058,900.
There are more Americans (55.1 million) who are 1 deviation above the US average than Indians (33.3 million) who are 2 deviations above the Indian average. This reflects the US’s higher baseline IQ combined with its smaller population—despite India’s vast size, the rarer tail (top 2.28%) yields fewer individuals than the broader US tail (top 15.87%). These are approximations; real distributions may have slight deviations from perfect normality due to environmental factors.
Good to know
Yes, particularly when some foreign nations(e.g. China) cover part of their wages. It also leads to a situation equivalent to ‘anchor babies’, as those H1B holders eventually get green cards and faculty positions and then hire more H1Bs from their own countries. Taxpayers should not be paying for this.
There should be a restriction such that H1B holders can only be responsible for 10-15% of those hired on any government grant. Big labs with 10 or more people could then have 1 in 10 as H1B holders.
“roughly 85,000 new commercial H-1B visas awarded each year”
A cause for mourning for American stem workers.
No more stoop labor in neckties.? Good. America First!
Imagine they’d have to offer courses at a reasonable rate since now they can’t use foreigners as piggy banks !
Texas A&M? It is sad that you beat ut at something.
First off, I don’t think universities care about IQ. If Indians can get a dumbed down degree they’re going to get hired. In my experience in high tech a whole lot of average H1-Bs are getting hired along with a few dolts.
Defund the universities!!! Get rid of their federal funding and get rid of their high-paying foreign students.
I meant businesses don’t care about IQ.
Many, many years ago our company bought a cable TV company in Australia. We started cycling managers through Sydney as a part of the “management development” program for senior managers.
The steps that a person had to go through to prove that they held skills that were needed and not available in Australia were intense. After about five years the Aussie government kind of looked at our senior management and told them we needed to train the Australians better because they were not allowing it any more.
I get the sense that our government is not looking that closely at these things. //sarc
Yet right across the border in PA is an economic miracle.
All due to one thing, FRACKING for Natural Gas. Not allowed in NYS.
46% of Columbia University graduates in 2023 were foreigners.
That’s something to think about when you see “protestors” at Columbia.
I don’t see the list in the excerpt, but my guess would be a bunch of far-left schools.
Too damn bad! The H1B Visa program was never intended as anything other than a means of filling a very few jobs that no Americans, were very few Americans, were qualified to fill. It was not intended to be a means by which industry would cut labor costs at the expense of American citizens, nor as it means for American universities to do the same thing. Don’t tell me That there aren’t plenty of American graduates with degrees from these very same universities, who could do lower level teaching jobs - of course there are, but the universities are paying less for the foreigners. Screw them - meaning both the universities and the foreign students. Kudos to Trump for returning this visa program to its original roots of filling very few jobs, and thereby helping American workers.
It’s what’s called a good start.
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