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Who controls whom, between Israel and the United States?
Pressenza International Press Agency ^ | October 21, 2024 | Samir Saul - Michel Seymour

Posted on 10/05/2025 12:48:09 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell

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Which of the United States or Israel uses the other for its foreign policy? Is Israel the proxy for US foreign policy in the Middle East? Or does Israel determine US foreign policy, both through and because of the Zionist lobby and the neocons and liberals present in the US administration? Is it “the world upside down” “tails wagging dogs”? This is a very old question: who manipulates whom in this American-Israeli relationship?

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To: Uncle Miltie
Yes. And they are not all that selective about who they pick for informed or reasoned commentary, or what those people are really supporting as long as it makes Israel look bad.

If it means treating the U.S., European, western culture, or Trump as the worst option, and by obviously selective omission, promoting Hamas, Chinese or Russian ambitions, who cares.

21 posted on 10/05/2025 3:16:12 PM PDT by Widget Jr (9/11 🇺🇸 7/7 🇬🇧 11M 🇪🇸 26/11 🇮🇳 10/7 🇮🇱)
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To: Widget Jr

That Jim guy crosses my path kinda regularly. But he’s not singularly anti-Semitic like several others.

People can like or not like Israel and American policies regarding her. That’s fine. But when it crosses over into obsession (see tagline), it’s just too much to ignore.

Jimwhatever doesn’t like Israel, by all indications, but doesn’t rant on about Jews generally or even too terribly much. So I guess I don’t care to have anything to do with him.


22 posted on 10/05/2025 3:22:38 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (PLAUSIBLY ANTI-SEMITIC POSTS: Hardspunned 90% Nitzy 88% Right_In_Virginia 84% Liz 50% Mac_Truck 32%)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Alex Krainer
 
High Cost to U.S. of maintaining 800 military bases only for the benefit of Wall St. and the City of London.

https://youtube.com/shorts/KStzBSt3X4I?si=SdlqANTRNADj_dKs

23 posted on 10/05/2025 3:26:04 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (Kucy)
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To: metmom

Amen, and YESHUA is King of America!


24 posted on 10/05/2025 3:44:46 PM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMEbRICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: jimwatx

Twoards tje left you are are a coward, twoards Israel you are veneers. YOU HATE ISRAEL MORE THAN YOU HATE THE LEFT, which makes you a garden slilug.


25 posted on 10/05/2025 3:47:13 PM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMEbRICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Now you are getting it.


26 posted on 10/05/2025 3:48:27 PM PDT by cowboyusa ( YESHUA IS KING OF AMEbRICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Leaning Right
Christians who support the Jews right to live in peace in their homeland are given the title, “Christian Zionists”. I wear it proudly, because God is a Zionist. A Jewish King named Jesus Christ is coming again to save the nation Israel and establish His Kingdom in Israel. Those Gentiles grafted in will get to share in that Kingdom, for salvation is from the Jews.

Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
27 posted on 10/05/2025 4:22:19 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Uncle Miltie
In practice, Pressenza’s journalism blends reporting with activism

In a word, agitprop.

The European press seems to be in full court press to minimize President Trump in advance of next week's announcement of the Nobel Peace Prize.

-PJ

28 posted on 10/05/2025 4:32:30 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I understand your point. But the term “Christian Zionist” and the term “Zionist lobby” imply two very different things.

The first term is honorable. The second is often used as a slur.


29 posted on 10/05/2025 5:07:25 PM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: cowboyusa

Hey pal, it’s not news to me.


30 posted on 10/05/2025 5:32:02 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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