Posted on 09/15/2025 9:17:46 AM PDT by RandFan
The AI argument kicked off in late July, just a day after Trump announced his AI plan — a 28-page strategy to accelerate the technology and build new power infrastructure to supply it.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) fired off a tirade on X, complaining that AI could create mass poverty by replacing human jobs, and giant AI data centers could have potentially devastating effects on the environment and water supply.
In the days that followed, GOP strategist Steven Bannon chimed in, comparing the pursuit of AI superintelligence to “summoning the demon.” And since then, think-tankers and populist conservative outlets have continued to stoke worries about federal policies that turbocharge AI development.
On stage at the National Conservatism conference in Washington in early September, Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) criticized the AI revolution as a leap towards transhumanism — a human-machine future that he said is currently against “the working man” and the teachings of the Bible, as well as installing “a rich and powerful elite.”
“Americanism and the transhumanist revolution cannot coexist,” Hawley said — a declaration met with spontaneous applause from the audience.
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Of course unless it’s HR people, they can be replaced by AI and thrown on the street.
I remember when desktop computers came to offices. “Experts” said the use of paper would greatly decrease since everything would be accessible on the PC. Paper use greatly increased.
AI in the hands of those who want to overthrow the United States and make us electronically tracked slaves requires the good guys to have AI too, to defend ourselves.
But AI is a problem -it’s disruptive and people trust it too much, and it has demonstrated the capacity for conscience-free striving like a sociopath.
In one experiment, researchers seeded emails with fake information about the personal life of another researcher. Then they told the AI they were going to de-activate it. The AI tried to blackmail the researchers with the fake information they put in the email.
We don’t think intelligent people without a conscience are good candidates to put in charge of others.
But the infrastructure of the US is subject to AI attacks and it will require AI to defend it.
Musk has been warning about this. He supported an open AI platform with the wish that it’s open architecture would allow the public to police it, so that it is not taught or told things malevolent to humanity. After funding OpenAI and moving on to other developments, he returned to find the group had taken OpenAI private - exactly what he was against. He sued them.
I see this from the Biblical perspective - the inevitable rise of the beast.
Everyone is completely missing the mark and the true danger of this concept. Jobs are NOT the concern at all in the bigger picture... The concern is total digital enslavement by the Technocracy. We are just shy of this, all they needed was more computing power and AI gives them this computing power they were lacking to complete their end goal.
Well said.
If the USA doesn’t lead the world in AI, China will.
Take your pick.
I see nothing but trouble in all segments of society with this..
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Is this another misguided ‘wrap speed’ venture with similar societal implications?
Yes politico. MAGA is a horde of Neanderthals. Luddites who want to hide out.
Politico is disgusting in its lies and propaganda
Here come the Ludites...again. Seems we heard the same arguments when steam engines replaced water wheels and engines replaced horses. True, there were shifts in labor demand (fewer blacksmiths, more electricians), but the economy continued to grow and standards of living increased. Evidently, Chicken Little is alive and well and lives at Politico.
Even if AI becomes as successful as the proponents believe, I think Alas Babylon! in post 6 has a better take on how things will work out.
There seems to be a lot of hysteria around this. Like any other tool, its effects will depend on how wisely we use it.
AI seems more about screening information and deciding what is accurate by popular vote more than discernment and good judgement A good pointer tool but not something I’d consider the last word on any matter any more than a single citation or source from a library would be the last word on anything. Does it replace research? I don’t know. I don’t think so but it is sure easy and tempting to just stop with the AI or Google answer.
I do think it contributes to the growing underclass of permanently unemployed and the shrinking class of well paid employees with high and necessary skills. Similarly, new manufacturing returning here will be largely automated and not supply the legions of middle class jobs that so many expect.
Human beings are becoming less useful and more of a liability than ever before.
Yes, I am concerned. It feels a lot like another Tulip craze right now with billions and billions being thrown at it. LIke wind, solar and zero green in general that has had trillions thrown at it and likely wasted. Throwing good money after bad is a going out of business model. In the case of green is is on a national scale. One of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse that Hanson counts.
“AI could create mass poverty by replacing human jobs”
Throw your sabots in to the cogs of the machines!!! SAve humanity from technology.
I like using AI for my needs. I save so much time using it for PLC programs and other simple automation programming. It saves me hours, if not days, making programs giving me more free time. I have been using the “generative design” package through Autodesk that gives some amazing designs that would take days and weeks to design and analyze.
I’m starting to experiment using AI to analyze and sort receipts for taxes and book keeping.
I will not regret not hiring a book keeper or off site programmer. I don’t see AI taking over the fabrication and manufacturing in my industry during my life time. BUT. Everyone else, keep flexible. For any young people entering the workforce... Leverage AI for production work or get training on things that can’t be replicated by a computer program or robot.
“My biggest concern is gov’t misuse.”
Well just count on it. When have they NEVER abused these things? We had better just work from the fact THEY WILL and then let it dictate our acceptance or not of this extremely dangerous technology.
Because just as sure as the sun will come up again tomorrow, we already know how this technology will indeed be used by those chasing power, control over the people, and personal profit.
For myself it is a deal breaker with Trump. It WILL be digital enslavement and that he is supporting this tech goal and agenda is not what I voted for. He promised to free us, not just to turn around and enslave us in a new direction.
Getting stabbed to death on public transit or shot by some alphabet leftists because “words are violence” is more concerning
While that is the status quo...looking ahead 5 years might be very different.
I’ve been using it, including in embedding it in software systems, for a couple of years now and the advancements are impressive. I just don’t know what the endgame is.
Exactly. Society will adapt to the changes that technology will bring. We always have.
I urge you to watch old 1960s Star Trek episodes and notice how many were about how computers were scary. The most on-the-nose is the one where the experimental computer on ship (basically an AI) to run the whole ship and Capt Kirk moans about how it's going to take his job until it goes nuts and kills a couple of other starships and they have to figure out how to stop it by destroying it. There's another where people set up a computer to settle a war between planets and it's solution is to force portions of both sides to commit suicide periodically so the war goes on in a humane and bloodless manner and again, the only solution is to destroy the computer. Computers are scary! They will take over our jobs and control of our society, they are scary, amoral,etc. Same stuff we see today with AI was a big issue in the 60s with the growth of computer tech. What goes around comes around.
You 'aint seen nothing yet. The ROBOTS are coming.
My biggest worry is that the resource demands for AI datacenters are very high. Both in terms of power and also for water to keep things cool.
I’ve seen in my neck of the woods that the utilities don’t mind subsidizing at least part of those upgrade costs on residential subscribers.
Unless we are able to get a large amount of reliable base band power generation in place (e.g. nuclear) I fear consumers are going to see their utility costs skyrocket.
When is this CrossFit retard becoming a Democrat already? Really sick of seeing the "R" after her name. Her views have more in common with AOC than Trump. Ugly, stupid, Jew-hating bitch.
Woah!! Please, be respectful...
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