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CNN Panelist Shouts Down Conservative Podcaster Pointing Out CDC’s Alleged Lies
Daily Caller ^ | September 04, 2025 | Harold Hutchison

Posted on 09/04/2025 4:08:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) Center for Health Equity Dr. Chris T. Pernell shouted down conservative podcaster Ben Ferguson on Wednesday during a panel discussion about COVID-19.

The House Oversight Committee’s Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic released its report in December 2024 detailing how the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) allowed the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) to interfere with school reopening guidance and parrot false statements about masking and vaccines. As Ferguson pointed out the CDC’s errors after “CNN NewsNight” host Abby Phillip claimed Florida’s end to vaccine mandates would “pull the rug” from children, Pernell began cutting him off. (RELATED: CNN Host Scrambles To Grasp At Straws After Scott Jennings Calls Her Out Over DC Crackdown)

“Two things. One, they’re not outlawed. That’s good. The parents are going to decide. Two, there’s a cause and effect, and the CDC lied to us about COVID, and they lied a lot. They lied about masks in schools,” Ferguson said, with Pernell interrupting by repeatedly saying, “Not true.”

“They lied about distancing. They lied about the efficiency or the effectiveness of the Covid-19 vaccine,” Ferguson continued, with Pernell again saying, “Not true.”

WATCH:

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs’ Select Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations released an interim report in May that said the Biden administration ignored early warning signs for myocarditis and pericarditis related to the COVID-19 vaccines. The coronavirus pandemic subcommittee’s report stated that the vaccines did not stop the transmission or spread of COVID-19, despite promises from officials.

“They said that distancing — wait, wait. Did they — did they not lie about the effectiveness of a mask?” Ferguson asked Pernell, who responded by claiming, “Yes, if you talk about certain types of masks. If we’re looking at high-quality masks … [N95] masks, those masks actually prevent infections because — look, this is the way science works. Science works that as you get data, the type of communication that you give will improve. But you can’t say the CDC lied.”

After a back and forth, Phillip jumped in on behalf of Pernell, whose website describes her as an “Apostle of Public Health” and highlights her work on a New Jersey committee studying reparations..

“If you’re saying things that are not accurate, I do think it’s fair for her to counter that,” Phillip said, with Ferguson retorting, “CDC said that masking was effective and worked when they knew internal documents said and the emails came out that it didn‘t work. True or false? Six-foot distancing, true or false? The CDC say —”

“Misinformation, folks. You’re seeing it in action,” Pernell claimed, with Ferguson responding, “They said it was going to stop the spread in two weeks.”

After Pernell and Phillip ganged up on Ferguson, he got a chance to respond.

“There’s a cause and effect. The American people don’t trust this CDC for the reason I said. You may not like that. You may not like [that] the American people believe that,” Ferguson said. (RELATED: Scott Jennings Battles Entire CNN Panel Over Whether Saying Men Can Get Pregnant Is ‘Politicization’ Of Science)

After additional back and forth, during which Ferguson and Pernell clashed over Ivermectin, Phillip again intervened.

“Okay. Ben, are you really going to argue with the doctor about this?” Phillip asked, with Pernell chiming in, “Thank you. A doctor who is helping to save lives and a safety net institution.”

“We all listened to the doctors during COVID. You guys screwed us and we failed miserably. You lied about a vaccine —” Ferguson said before Phillip interrupted, saying, “I just want to move on — hold on one second. I just want to move on because I want to let other people join the conversation.”


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KEYWORDS: cdc; cnn; covid19; donate; media; msm

1 posted on 09/04/2025 4:08:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

People need to decide.

Was the shamdemic a scamdemic, or was the scamdemic a shamdemic.


2 posted on 09/04/2025 4:10:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: nickcarraway

Leftists are like young children who believe screaming louder will elevate the value of their argument points. It doesn’t.


3 posted on 09/04/2025 4:12:21 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: nickcarraway

Why I have no TV.

I do not let these lying gaslighting liars in my house.

Nope.


4 posted on 09/04/2025 4:14:41 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: nickcarraway

Typical RAT bully behavior. They think that by shouting over the other party’s comments, they’ve won the discussion.


5 posted on 09/04/2025 4:23:09 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: BenLurkin

It was more of a FlimFlamdemic


6 posted on 09/04/2025 4:46:47 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: nickcarraway

“Okay. Ben, are you really going to argue with the doctor about this?”

Uh, yes. Some doctors are educated scientists. Others are trained in medicine. Those are two completely different things.

I had to take some medical school courses when studying bioengineering.

Medical school courses require one to digest enormous amounts of information and spit it back out.

Science and engineering classes often required you to read publications and critique them for correctness and accuracy, for instance assessing study design.


7 posted on 09/04/2025 4:49:49 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: nickcarraway

The old talk over the facts tactic.


8 posted on 09/04/2025 4:50:06 PM PDT by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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To: nickcarraway
This is where these CNN types went to school to learn to debate.
9 posted on 09/04/2025 4:59:53 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, here I go yet again:

The solution to the idiocy on display - and shared by tens of millions of leftists - would have been rather academic had this administration taken decisive action on Day 2 to,

1. Put to bed all of the plandemic lies,
2. End all plandemic era policies, including the EUAs,
3. Begin purging all culpable bureaucrats and credentialled idiots at NHS who crafted all the hocus pocus.

But no, none of that happened, we got a mere taste last week with rfk jr’s ‘4 things’ and democrats still believe all of the lies.

The video is chilling evidence of the ongoing - and apparently spreading effects - of the ‘true pandemic’.

The lack of decisive action by this administration will ultimately have a brutal effect on scientific credibility and lead to a new era of politically driven ‘science’ under a future demidiot administration.

But it’s Ok because some here believe that rather than being righteous and decisive we must have evidence. /s

I wonder if the other ‘things’ on rfk jr’s list will grow mushrooms by the time we hear about them.../s/s


10 posted on 09/04/2025 6:10:56 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 "/!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: nickcarraway

Bkmk


11 posted on 09/05/2025 4:12:25 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: mass55th; All

It’s like every conversation I’ve ever had with a Liberal. If they interrupt and shout over you ... then they think they are right and you are wrong.

THAT never even worked on the playground. They are so pathetic!


12 posted on 09/05/2025 5:15:35 AM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: BenLurkin

I call it CoupFlu for a reason.


13 posted on 09/05/2025 5:18:18 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

14 posted on 09/05/2025 9:07:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: SMARTY
"THAT never even worked on the playground. They are so pathetic!"

The playground comparison is perfect!!

15 posted on 09/05/2025 9:52:24 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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