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Trump cuts to climate satellites will make weather prediction harder, scientists say
The Washington Post ^ | September 1, 2025 05:00 AM EDT | Scott Dance

Posted on 09/01/2025 3:01:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

The Trump administration is scrapping satellite observations of Earth that officials say go beyond the essential task of predicting the weather.

Two satellite instruments that track Earth’s carbon dioxide levels will soon go offline, deemed “beyond their primary mission.” Two others meant to monitor water contamination and air pollution, including from greenhouse gases, will be removed from a future satellite mission based on orders to “deliver a weather-only instrument manifest.”

The Trump administration is scrapping satellite observations of Earth that officials say go beyond the essential task of predicting the weather, according to budget documents that outline plans to reshape government research. In doing so, meteorologists and climate scientists say it is drawing a line between what is weather — and thus warrants government investment — and what is climate.

For example, language in a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration budget calls for preserving funding for the National Weather Service while slashing anything tied to climate change, limiting government investment to “research that is more directly related to the NOAA mission.” It echoed a call in the Republican policy playbook Project 2025 to dismantle climate research, which the report said drives “the climate change alarm industry,” while continuing to improve weather forecasting accuracy.

But scientists said there is no such division between weather and climate — and that losing climate data will actually hurt weather forecasting.

“This is a complete fallacy, weather versus climate. It is one and the same,” said Lars Peter Riishojgaard, director of the Earth System Science Interdisciplinary Center at the University of Maryland.

As much as politicians may seek to separate the two, Riishojgaard said, “The earth system is wrapped together in its intricacy in ways that do not align with any particular political agenda.”

NOAA spokeswoman Kim Doster did not answer questions about the status...

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KEYWORDS: carbonpropaganda; climatehoax; ecoterrorism; ecoterrorists; fakescience; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; panicporn

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“This is a complete fallacy, weather versus climate. It is one and the same,” said Lars Peter Riishojgaard, director of the Earth System Science Interdisciplinary Center at the University of Maryland.

Not true.

We have been told over and over again by our DEI scientific betters that hot weather is climate and cold weather is just weather. 🤡

1 posted on 09/01/2025 3:01:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It doesnt take a genius to figure out the weather, you go outside, its hot, you go outside, its raining, see that simple :-)


2 posted on 09/01/2025 3:04:19 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What a laugher. I am sure that these contracts are bloated AF. Plenty of services are available.


3 posted on 09/01/2025 3:05:16 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

so they admit climate is just weather ,LOL Farmers Almanac


4 posted on 09/01/2025 3:07:19 PM PDT by butlerweave (Fateh)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I installed 4 weather apps. None of them are accurate. They say no rain while it’s raining, rain when it’s not. They can’t even agree on the temperature. Sometimes up to a 10 degree difference.

I rely mostly on my weather rock.


5 posted on 09/01/2025 3:07:58 PM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They are accurate 5% of the time now. How much will it go down?


6 posted on 09/01/2025 3:07:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They still can’t accurately predict three or four days from now, let alone a week or two.

I am unable to find a search result for the inaccurate call from the Weather Channel that cause expensive evacuation and shutdowns of stores and restaurants for a big storm that never arrived. People were chanting “Where’s the storm? Where’s the storm” and the headquarters made a call about the reporters and crew “Get them out of there. Now.”


7 posted on 09/01/2025 3:08:26 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Robert Heinlein onde wrote about the difference.

“People move somewhere for the climate, but when they get there they get weather.” [paraphrased]


8 posted on 09/01/2025 3:08:49 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. Non-native Tennessean.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We will go bankrupt from superfluous spending but at least we’ll have idiots giving us dubious weather information. What a deal!!!!


9 posted on 09/01/2025 3:09:31 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

NOAA got into the business of generating data that the climate alarmists use to beat us over the head with.


10 posted on 09/01/2025 3:11:38 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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But scientists said there is no such division between weather and climate.

I've been told for years that climate isn't the weather. Which is it? $cience.

11 posted on 09/01/2025 3:12:33 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I sure hope they don’t get rid of Kleinsassar, that dude has actually been right about the weather forecast here once or twice.


12 posted on 09/01/2025 3:13:18 PM PDT by kawhill ("Time will say nothing but I told you so." Auden)
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The idea that they can actually measure the co2 in the atmosphere is amusing......and know that it is the SOLE factor effecting climate is absurd....and that man is responsible for that number....is ridiculous.

That's not science....it's projection.

13 posted on 09/01/2025 3:17:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Utter nonsense, which is exactly what any normally intelligent and knowledgeable person would clearly understand.


14 posted on 09/01/2025 3:18:57 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (President Trump is America's long-awaited SUPREME Commander in Chief. Deus Hoc Vult!)
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To: SpaceBar

NOAA has also been caught adjusting the data to fit the narrative.


15 posted on 09/01/2025 3:23:00 PM PDT by Cold Heart (Democrats protect criminals and prosecute innocents)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

NASA has never produced a cost effective weather satellite.


16 posted on 09/01/2025 3:24:40 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If I were to use the vocabulary and phraseology of these “scientists” in my job, I would be unemployed.

Maybe

Perhaps

Chance of

Partly

I would have no “chance of” a paycheck.

PS - I have lived in places where the “weather report” simply interchanged “partly sunny” and “partly cloudy” for WEEKS. When the clouds did not burn off, they “amended” the nighttime report to something close to: “today’s clouds were thicker than expected.”


17 posted on 09/01/2025 3:26:39 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try )
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To: KC_Conspirator

I remember that years ago the NOAA weather broadcast stations would include an agricultural outlook with their regular broadcast, something like current and expected moisture conditions, etc. The NOAA broadcasters made it known that they thought ending that practice was unfortunate. Yet I haven’t seen any issues associated with ending that practice, at least around here. Plenty of other ways nowadays to get that info. I suspect the same is true with this satellite business.


18 posted on 09/01/2025 3:28:21 PM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How can we survive with only 15,000 weather satellites?


19 posted on 09/01/2025 3:31:18 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: frank ballenger

They told me we had a 60% of rain today around 2 pm. Hot and sunny.


20 posted on 09/01/2025 3:37:12 PM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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