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Nobody Knows What’s Real
American Thinker ^ | 17 Aug, 2025 | J.B. Shurk

Posted on 08/17/2025 5:00:16 AM PDT by MtnClimber

There’s no better example of how little faith Americans have that government officials will tell the truth than the public’s blasé reaction to UFO announcements. In the last ten years, The New York Times has run stories about secret Pentagon programs tasked with retrieving alien craft. Members of Congress have held hearings on “mysterious orbs” and invited government witnesses to testify about black budget projects supposedly reverse-engineering alien technology. Secretary of State Rubio and director of National Intelligence Gabbard have both suggested that the UFO issue is serious. Yet eight billion people around the world collectively shrug.

Can you imagine what the public reaction would have been like had national newspapers and prominent officials released similar details in the 1950s? With the 1947 Roswell Incident still fresh in Americans’ minds, government confirmation of UFOs would have been the most important story in the world. Every article written and television report broadcast would have been framed around the alien/UFO phenomenon.

For eighty years, UFO-hunters have been fighting for government declassifications and official disclosure of alien contact. Now that videos of strange sightings have been released and congressional hearings have been convened to investigate the matter, Americans don’t seem to care. Representatives Tim Burchett and Anna Paulina Luna have said explicitly that extraterrestrial visitors are real, and their statements disappear in a blizzard of news stories discussing the “Aryan micro-aggressions” of Sydney Sweeney’s jeans.

Nobody believes what government officials say. Nobody believes what journalists say. In our world today, fantastic stories come and go, and nobody knows if they’re real.

CIA director William Casey reportedly told other principals gathered in the Roosevelt Room of the White House in early 1981, “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

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To: MtnClimber
Yet eight billion people around the world collectively shrug.

How arrogant are some to think, of all the potential places in the universe to explore, aliens would pick earth.

Then how arrogant further to think they would understand English as one "scientist" recently proposed signaling to them?

In a universe full of every possibility how arrogant to think that all species out there need water and oxygen to survive as we do?

I'll get excited about it when tabloid and here say level coverage isn't used as a substitute for real science.

41 posted on 08/17/2025 10:34:22 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: know.your.why

I’m not a teacher, retired or otherwise, and I also know that it’s precisely correct to use an apostrophe in a contraction.

By saying “Me and my spouse” did such-and-such, (e.g., went to the store) you’re saying “Me went to the store”.

(I’m sorry that your elementary school didn’t teach grammar.)


42 posted on 08/17/2025 10:39:42 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: dpetty121263
Clear as can be, not any aliens but more likely Demons..

And how would one distinguish the difference? Wouldn't a demon be alien to us? For that matter, so would an angel? Now if we get specific and use the term extraterrestrial, that would also likely be alien to us as well.

The problem as I see it, is that there is 'something' there. There is evidence of some parts of our history being unexplainable, but with widely accepted theories such as the various pyramids, Gobekli Tepe, buildings at Cusco, etc. the histories of past civilization have many common themes, but with different names for the events and in some cases persons. These are interesting, because we would be hard-pressed, if not impossible to replicate them. Let alone at a time when survival was of great importance, but let's go build some really complicated buildings with very unique features that we don't understand

So the question is if the truth is made available, how does this rewrite our history, or perhaps it doesn't at all , but just fills in some gaps.

There piece is that I've always found interesting is how some will completely laugh at the idea of intelligence life from another planet, but completely grab onto the concept of a demon or angel while being able to provide zero proof of either.

Scully from the X-Files said, "The truth is out there, but so are lies.", probably sums it up best. I've seen/experienced a few things that I can't explain. So until I can, I'll just keep an open mind and continue to read and research.

43 posted on 08/17/2025 10:41:45 AM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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To: know.your.why

What scares me is that folks who man our nuclear launch facilities are also “loons” as well:

https://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Nukes-Extraordinary-Encounters-Nuclear/dp/1544822197


44 posted on 08/17/2025 10:43:08 AM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: cuz1961
Evolution didn’t/can’t happen here or on any other planet

So by this line of thinking, all forms of bears (black, grizzly, polar bears for a sample) just spontaneously appeared? Got it?

45 posted on 08/17/2025 10:47:18 AM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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To: voicereason

Logic isn’t your strong point.

That’s a specious argument.

Nothing spontaneously appeared, that’s exactly what evolution claims btw , bwaaa ha ha ha

The irony of your statement seems to have evaded you.

spontaneously
adverb
as a result of a sudden impulse and without premeditation.

without apparent external cause or stimulus.

You know, like nothing became everything, i.e. evolution.

God created .

All things.


46 posted on 08/17/2025 11:04:57 AM PDT by cuz1961
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To: voicereason

bears (black, grizzly, polar bears

/

Are all bears

They didn’t evolve from each other.

All the DNA is there, it’s just which is expressed that determines their traits.


47 posted on 08/17/2025 11:10:40 AM PDT by cuz1961
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To: MtnClimber

Humbuggery?




Are there things that go bump in the dark......Yes, been there done that.


NOTE:Always have a (working) flashlight at hand.



Are there UFO's.....Yes, been there seen two maybe three.


NOTE:Things in the sky that did not act in a way that seemed normal.



Are there Angels and or other dimensional entities running around the world............I've seen no direct proof so I can't say yes or no.


NOTE: It has been said that the devils biggest victory was to make people believe he does not exist.



Little green or gray men, aliens come to earth............I've seen no direct proof so I can't say yes or no.



Were we gene spliced (created) by aliens to mine gold............I've seen no direct proof so I can't say yes or no.


NOTE: Why would they bother, when there are asteroids out in space that are solid gold or so we are told....?



Was and is the UFO phenomenal a fascistic way to redirect the attention of the populace.....Yes, yes it is.

48 posted on 08/17/2025 11:20:10 AM PDT by BFW (loss of signal)
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To: know.your.why
What do you make of comment #7 above.

I don't think anyone knows exactly what is going on; it might be psyops, or mass psychosis, or aliens, or demons. But whatever it is, something is going on.

49 posted on 08/17/2025 12:16:57 PM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: MtnClimber
I believe UAP’s, aka, UFO's, are real. Most likely interdimensional by a civilization thousands, or millions, of years more advanced than us.

With a universe believed to be over 13 BILLION years old, and over 100 billion and two trillion galaxies, something other than us has to be out there.

50 posted on 08/17/2025 12:32:25 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Why can't you tickle yourself?)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Evolution is mathematically impossible

Anywhere.

Darwin cultists when confronted with the mathematical impossibility of evo on earth..

ALWAYS

throw the diversion of

” well it evolved somewhere else cuz billions ( math) “

while studiously ignoring actual math.

That whole billions of planets canard was cooked up by Carl Sagan.

It's based on faulty probabilities.

He said since life exists here then the mathematical probability is 1 in 2.

He ignored that in order for life to exist dozens of factors have to be present at once.

Mass of earth
Type of sun
How far from earth
How much mass of planet
How much gravity resulting fromm mass
Perfect gases ratio and types in atmosphere

The probabilities with just those the few factors , and there are dozens more, make life HERE a mathematical impossibility.

A miracle, of creation.

IOW a supreme creator.

Iow God.

When Carl Sagan was confronted with these facts by Ben Stein in his documentary titled

“Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed

Carl sputtered and said that life came to earth in a meteor

Bwa hahaha.’

Sagan's ignorant pseudo science BS has spread like cancer

I've heard that nonsense even repeated by one of my fav Congress critters.

Sad, really, that people are still thinking that.

51 posted on 08/17/2025 12:56:03 PM PDT by cuz1961
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To: Hot Tabasco

I also believe entities are, and have been for centuries, interacting with mankind.

But math proves they didn’t evolve on some planet, or here.

They are deceiving created beings.

They may proclaim benevolence

But they seek to deceive and destroy us.

Bible talks about them, the most pertinent is

2Co 11:14 - And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.

They are not our older space brothers

They did not plant us here or guide our evolution

They did not create us
with evo or tech

They will eventually tell us they are our God.

That we can evolve into God’s.

The oldest lie in the Bible.

Please

Please don’t fall for this .


52 posted on 08/17/2025 1:09:35 PM PDT by cuz1961
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To: cuz1961
All the DNA is there, it’s just which is expressed that determines their traits.

Because of...perhaps...evolution?

53 posted on 08/17/2025 1:33:51 PM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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To: cuz1961
Logic isn’t your strong point.

Says the person, "Evolution didn’t/can’t happen here"

54 posted on 08/17/2025 1:36:27 PM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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To: know.your.why; larrytown; fso301; Carl Vehse; The Duke

The evidence for UFOs is massive—whatever they are. The fact that it’s anecdotal to those of us outside the DOD, contractors, or the IC doesn’t make it false. After all, anecdotal evidence can be enough to convict someone all the way to the electric chair.

What it points to may or may not be the obvious explanation (“aliens”), but ignoring it—or dismissing those who bring it forward as “loons”—is just stupid.


55 posted on 08/17/2025 1:39:16 PM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: MayflowerMadam

I said what I said and I don’t appreciate grammar police here or anywhere else. You know what I meant and so does everyone else. What is your problem? If you can’t talk about the topic at hand, stay off the forums


56 posted on 08/17/2025 2:05:09 PM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!! )
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To: MayflowerMadam

Maybe not but you definitely have a stick up your butt…


57 posted on 08/17/2025 2:07:07 PM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!! )
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To: MtnClimber
In our world today, fantastic stories come and go, and nobody knows if they’re real.

I believe her...


58 posted on 08/17/2025 2:09:19 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: The Duke

UFOs/UAPs are galactic civilization’s equivalent of juvenile delinquents, joyriding through this backwater laughing-stock of the universe. Temporary abductions, (air) traffic stunts and physical probes sounds too much like irresponsible teenage hooliganism to me.


59 posted on 08/17/2025 2:26:34 PM PDT by MikelTackNailer (We can never stop failing for the minute we do, we fail.)
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To: RoosterRedux
The evidence for UFOs is massive

Massive? Really? How can you characterize the evidence as massive when its not conclusive? Not proven? You say these things are here. Now. Present. Among us. What....are they some supernatural spirit? Witchcraft maybe? Angels from heaven? Hell? Some alien intelligence jumping in and out of some "time continuum" maybe? Just wtf are you suggesting?
60 posted on 08/17/2025 2:48:24 PM PDT by know.your.why
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