Ghost Jobs suck.
many times they are also used to “show” that there are no Americans that can be hired for the role so the company needs an H1B allotment
The ghost positions that are the topic of the article are yet another piece of the puzzle. Not only gender/race/ethnicity, but age and compensation can become disqualifiers for applicants. Applications for ghost positions can be rejected without further evaluation.
Sure miss the days when one could walk right into the business, talk to the owner, and walk out with a job... assuming you weren’t put to work immediately. Those were the days.... some outliers still exist though they are few and far between.
I can see them covering their butts with fake interviews and using them to strike fear in existing employees.
Gotta keep HR busy you know.
HR of today is unethical and unnecessary.
Ghost jobs.
Also Impossible jobs. They ask for so much, and set pay for so little compared to what they require, in order that the Americans eith those skills would never apply because the money wasn’t worth what they required. So then the companies could have pretext for h1-b hires, they would simply modify the job skills down, amd also lower the pay, so they could claim they aren’t the same job.
Why post a job if it’s not available? Should be a crime and the punishment is a job opening for the idiot that posted its job.
They are meant as a dishonest representation to investors, which means they should be prosecutable under securities fraud.
“Seven out of ten hiring managers said they believe ghost job postings can boost morale, productivity, and even revenue for their companies.”
This also means 7 our of 10 hiring managers are integrity-challenged idiots.
Ghost jobs? There is no such thing as ghosts or ghost jobs.
Every employer likes to have a few resume potentials in their hip pockets.
Walk offs, quits, even a 2 week notice is often not enough time to find qualified team members. So ...employers hedge against that possibility.
To the job seekers...call it practice, call it practice.
People who say "there oughta be a law" should be flogged ...
I had a boss who was always looking for the next big thing.
She was into personality tests - the birds, the colors, etc. She insisted that every manager had weekly meetings with each subordinate and you were to document everything. It was all so she could be on the never ending quest for the unicorn employee - a highly qualified, highly motivated person willing to work for very little pay. Needless to say, for a small company, she churned through employees.
I eventually left to start my own company. At a Chamber of Commerce event I ran into some old friends and coworkers and we were standing around chatting when my old bosses’ latest hire approached us and introduced herself.
I then introduced the group. I used to work for XXX. This is my wife, who used to work for XXX. This is Troy, who used to work for XXX. This is Rob, who used to work for XXX. This is Audrey, who used to work for XXX. We have a club and we meet at UNM Stadium once a month.
The next day I got a call from my old boss saying she was going to sue me for slander. True story.
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p. 232
How can you identify a moderate? He is the man who only shoots at his own side and never at the enemy.
p. 241
Strategy 1: Build alternative institutions
The long, slow, and insidious process of invading an institution, then gradually taking it over before steering it to serve one's own ends is not the sort of thing that comes naturally to the normal, honest individual. The amount of deception involved, combined with the considerable patience required, means that simply recreating the SJWs' long Gramscian march through the institutions of the West is not a viable solution. A better strategy, and one that is far more in line with our strengths, is building alternative institutions that will compete with the SJW-infested ones.
I case you don’t know, this is THE tactic to get more H1B visas approved
1) Post job
2) Run it for 90 days
3) Hire nobody
4) Petition Gov as “proof” H1B visa needed for the role.
This has been going on in the tech industry for 30 years.
It needs to END
Fair warning, old uncle Frank is going to tell the “Cybercoders” stories again. If you’ve already heard them, feel free to skip this comment.
A few years ago I was COVID’d out of a job and was looking. I’m an embedded engineer with decades of experience. I got an e-mail from a female recruiter at Cybercoders about a position (company name not mentioned!). It was perfect. I responded, she asked for my resume, I gave it, we set up a call, she said I was qualified, she would submit me. Then nothing. She stopped answering my calls, her voicemail was full, and she didn’t respond to e-mails. This job listing that she sent me had some VERY PECULIAR wording in it, and I googled it and found the listing. It was for a closed position in Monterrey Mexico with Continental. I e-mailed her an angry e-mail pointing out that she was CLEARLY up to something, and that I had found the job, and didn’t appreciate what she was doing. The response I got was “No, that’s not the job”. 5 years later, I’ve still not heard anything else from her.
As if THAT wasn’t enough: A couple of weeks later, I get an e-mail from ANOTHER recruiter at the same company with ANOTHER job listing that I also was both qualified and interested in. Same song and dance, but this time when I get the recruiter on the phone I ask him for the company name. He tells me. Same thing. He’ll submit me, then nothing for 2-3 weeks. Voicemail full, no response to e-mails, etc. Since I have the name of the company, I go to their website, and the job is real. So, I apply. I get a call 3 hours later, and an interview the next day, and the job offer the day after. I start the job, and am onsite “for training” when I get an e-mail from this guy, he tells me that he’s still trying to get me an interview. I ask him who he’s talking with at the company. He gives me a name. I’m LITERALLY sitting next to the guy he mentions. (A guy who had been named in a marketing blitz for the company). I turn and ask this guy “Ever heard of this recruiter from Cybercoders named X?” “Nope! Never so much as heard of Cybercoders”. I respond to the e-mail and tell the recruiter “This guy says he’s never heard of you”. He says that’s just not true. I tell him that I went around him and got the job that he had “offered”. He tells me THAT’S not true either. I go to the lobby of the company, and take a selfie of me standing in front of the sign, and send THIS to him. He then says “You seem angry. You got the job, why are you mad?”
Really dude? Really?
BKMK
I know someone who is a principle in a business, and he admits to posting jobs to look for qualified candidates, even if they don't have an open position immediately available.
He says that if the respondant to the ad is a stellar candidate, they will create a spot for that person, so they justify the "ghost ad" by saying that they don't have "no intention" of hiring someone; they're just always looking for exceptional talent.
-PJ
A lot of ghost job postings happen because of laws, they require you to post job listings before you fill a position, even though they already have somebody in mind to fill the position, so they post the position online gather a bunch of resumes they don’t even look at, and hire the person they were going to hire anyway. It’s a big waste of everyone time. Those laws needs to go or be changed.