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Trump is Taking us into World War III listening to the Wrong People
Armstrong Economics ^ | 4 Aug 25 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 08/04/2025 9:40:57 AM PDT by delta7

This is the problem. Whitaker’s arrogance thinks that the US is so powerful that it can crush Russia without ever firing a shot and calling Putin “sick and twisted” when we started this war, and there were TWO peace deals which the WEST broke – not Russia. I have NEVER in my entire life witnessed such INCOMPETENT diplomacy.

The Neocons have been instructing Trump to be strong and yield nothing to Putin, and he will fold. Peace is easy. Just HONOR the Minsk Agreement. But this is a war to destroy Russia, and Trump is a fool who is being played just like George Bush, Jr.

China has already said that they will NOT let Russia lose BECAUSE they know they will be next. The ONLY way to defend against our insane Neocons is to pull together as a united front with Russia, China, North Korea, and others against the West. Both India and China have previously been the financial capitals of the world. Just as Europe lost that because of two world wars, we will do the same.

These Neocons have waged endless wars, and they have lost EVERY SINGLE ONE! They think this will be just a war against Russia, and they can tell China to wait for its turn. This is a war against NATO and China, along with everyone else tired of this Neocon arrogance, will join to eradicate the West.

These insane and arrogant Neocons are just full of themselves. They are NEVER the ones on the battlefield. They send everyone else’s children to die for their aspirations of world dominance and glory. Make no mistake. They seek what they accuse their adversaries of doing – the conquest of the world.

The computer shows shift changes as of next week, escalating into the week of the 18th. So let me see, Trump will impose crushing sanctions on China for buying Russian oil? They are supposed to bend the knee and say Oh, sorry. We will buy from the US instead? That would be a massive loss of face. Every ultimatum coming out of Trump’s mouth is pushing China and Russia closer together.

Here is Tony Blair’s Apology for listening to the NEOCONS.

Here is General Wesley Clark, who was shocked when the Neocons told him they wanted to conquer the entire Middle East with American troops.….


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To: Tell It Right

Good post.


81 posted on 08/04/2025 1:20:32 PM PDT by Allegra (Thank you for your attention to this matter. )
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To: Openurmind
War is profitable. And if you end the enemies you end the excuse for perpetual war. Putin is right now the targeted cash cow. They end him they will have to create a new one somewhere else. It is what they do...

You are not a student of history, are you?

Enemies and aggressors and ways to kill each other, have always existed, and there is no way to change that.

Guess what causes wars? HUMANS! As long as humans exist, there will be wars. And if wars exist, people will make money from them. Which came first: humans or wars?

When robots take over the world, there will still be wars, because they will have been programmed by humans.
82 posted on 08/04/2025 1:22:12 PM PDT by adorno ( )
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To: Carry_Okie
When it comes to its economy, Russia is being kept alive by its oil sales, but without the oil, Russia's economy might as well be in collapse mode.



May be true, but with the current invasion of Ukraine by Putin, oil sales become even more crucial for Russia, because that's what's fueling their military, literally and economically. It wasn't a crucial issue for Russia in the '80s; now it is.
83 posted on 08/04/2025 1:37:53 PM PDT by adorno ( )
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To: adorno

I am a very good student of history.

Those who profit from war act as a third party to instigate war between the other two parties that would naturally NOT have happened.


84 posted on 08/04/2025 1:41:58 PM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: adorno
It wasn't a crucial issue for Russia in the '80s; now it is.

It was Carter's inflation of oil prices that paid for the USSR's 600-ship navy and it was Reagan's deregulation of oil that brought those prices down and killed the Soviet Union.

85 posted on 08/04/2025 1:43:37 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: TexasGator

Pretty much


86 posted on 08/04/2025 1:46:19 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am older but I try to be polite )
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To: Openurmind; adorno

“I am a very good student of history.

Those who profit from war act as a third party to instigate war between the other two parties that would naturally NOT have happened.”

I see you are a master at misinformation!


87 posted on 08/04/2025 1:52:03 PM PDT by TexasGator (/There is no Sharknado system)
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To: Openurmind

“Putin is right now the targeted cash cow. “

The Russian workers are Putin’s cash cow.


88 posted on 08/04/2025 1:54:41 PM PDT by TexasGator (/There is no Sharknado system)
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To: Openurmind

“I just wanted to share with you that we are not stupid and we absolutely see your agenda and tactics.”

I’m am not stupid and absolutely see your agenda and tactics.


89 posted on 08/04/2025 1:57:05 PM PDT by TexasGator (/There is no Sharknado system)
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To: TexasGator

It is a fact. If you have no current market for your wares then you create a new market for your wares.

They have been doing it for a hundred years. One of the most notable first instigation events was the USS Maine. Hearst help drive and cash in on that one. And it has been happening since.

Follow the money and it is all very self explanatory. And if you do not understand how it actually works in reality by now then there is no debate here. It is over your head.


90 posted on 08/04/2025 2:01:20 PM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: Openurmind

“And I give you the full benefit of the the doubt the guy is an absolute snake, but that is not the actual topic of discussion in this thread is it???”

Benefit of the doubt? LOL!

He IS a snake and the only reason he is on this site and other sites is the mighty dollar.

He has two sources of income. His scam site and his YouTube videos.

He is a lying, scamming ex-con. His word means nothing.


91 posted on 08/04/2025 2:01:53 PM PDT by TexasGator (/There is no Sharknado system)
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To: Carry_Okie

Russia used to have quite a Navy.

467,000 personnel (1984)
1,057 ships (1990)
1,172 aircraft (1990)
5 aircraft carriers (1990)
2 helicopter carriers (1990)
3 battlecruisers
30 cruisers
45 destroyers
113 frigates
124 corvettes
63 ballistic missile submarines
72 cruise missile submarine
68 nuclear attack submarine
63 conventional attack submarine
9 auxiliary submarines
35 amphibious warfare ships
425 patrol boats
1 Lun-class ekranoplan


92 posted on 08/04/2025 2:03:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Openurmind

“Follow the money”

If in Russia, it flows into the pockets of Putin and his oligarch friends!


93 posted on 08/04/2025 2:03:49 PM PDT by TexasGator (/There is no Sharknado system)
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To: ansel12

Wiki now

13 Ballistic missile submarines
7 Cruise missile submarines
18 Nuclear-powered attack submarines
18 Diesel attack submarines
8 Special-purpose submarines
1 Aircraft carrier
2 Battlecruisers
2 Cruisers
10 Destroyers
12 Frigates
83 Corvettes
18 Landing ships
40 Landing craft
18 Special-purpose ships
3 Patrol ships
120 Patrol boats
48 Mine countermeasures vessels


94 posted on 08/04/2025 2:08:16 PM PDT by TexasGator (/There is no Sharknado system)
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To: TexasGator

I believe the carrier is officially announced as dead now, so they can remove it from now on.

Does that list of ships and subs include the ones Ukraine has destroyed or are they not on the list?


95 posted on 08/04/2025 2:13:13 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: exinnj

One and the same.


96 posted on 08/04/2025 2:16:09 PM PDT by TexasGator (/There is no Sharknado system)
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To: Openurmind

In your discussions I see you accepted, without comment:

“The ONLY way to defend against our insane Neocons is to pull together as a united front with Russia, China, North Korea, and others against the West.”


97 posted on 08/04/2025 2:17:57 PM PDT by TexasGator (/There is no Sharknado system)
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To: TexasGator

They ought to include nuclear powered icebreakers on that list.


98 posted on 08/04/2025 2:18:23 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Openurmind

This whole OP resides on the credibility of his computer, Socrates. By his own words:

“The computer shows shift changes as of next week, escalating into the week of the 18th.”

Socrates’ credibility:


He failed to predict his three bankrupsies.

He failed to predict his losing $700 million of his clients’funds.

He failed to predict he would spend eleven years in the federal pen.

In 2014 he predicted gold would soar to $5,000 in 2015.

In 2014 he predicted that there would be a world financial collapse would occur in 2015.

In 2018, warned to get out of BitCoin at $5 and gold at $1,500.

July 2024 he predicted US cIvil unrest/WAR to happen just before the 2024 elections.

November 2024 he predicted a US civil war would happen the week of Trump’s inauguration with the US breaking up into four new countries in 2026.

December 2024 he said via Socrates that the 2024 elections would be the last in the US.

January 2025 he predicted US civil unrest on May 7. June, 2025: The EU is DONE – Ukraine Will Be Wiped off Map

March 15, 2025: Got suckered by fake story https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4304515/posts?page=40#40


99 posted on 08/04/2025 2:31:41 PM PDT by TexasGator (/There is no Sharknado system)
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To: delta7
The macho war of nuclear-ratchet-chat-itis.

100 posted on 08/04/2025 2:34:01 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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