A decade ago, the New Horizons probe flew past Pluto. I was all-in on this saga for years, so I read anything on the topic. One thing that caught my attention was the engineers’ concern for the probe hitting a random piece of space rock, especially as it approached the Pluto system. They said at 40,000 mph (the probe’s cruising speed), all it would take to destroy New Horizons was impact with a rock the size of rice. That didn’t happen thankfully, and we got stunning photos and another demonstration of American exceptionalism.
A few years thereafter, on FR there was a great thread on the physics of space and light-speed travel…not a Star Trek or sci-fi talk, but people who actually know physics (well…it’s the internet…they sounded smart…) and math really well.
This same physics/math problem arose….the faster you go, the less it takes terms of size of what you hit, to wipe you out. Someone posted a formula and there was agreement on this problem. The problem isn’t just that collision damage issue, but even IF you could achieve light speed, you’d be exposed to this risk for years if not centuries.
The posters in this thread then posited that this damage issue COULD be overcome if mankind could, say, develop a guidance system that identifies rock etc. and steers around it. The counter to that was at light speed the size of the rock that’d kill you would be so small that 1) no sensor could detect it in time and 2) even if detected, you’d have to slow down the spacecraft, swerve, etc. The end of that discussion was that of a “never say never” attitude.
Fair enough. I’m not a physicist nor do I play one on TV.
But physics applies to all physical beings. It seems impossible, physically, for ET (or us) to travel at light speed for years to visit wherever, and then go home etc. It’s just not going to happen.
And yet, UFO sightings and aliens and close encounters happen with enough frequency where it’s hard to just blame it on drugs.
For me, the answer, not just religiously, but empirically, points to ET being demons. Fallen angels. And Demons really do hate us and want to serve us for dinner.
(Fallen angels / Demons)
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You seem pretty sure that we know everything there is to know about physics. Here we are, just 200 years or so into that study.
Never mind, for us at least, the damage of long term exposure to radiation in something like say a trip to Mars?
Surviving, fault free and with with as much redundant equipment as you could afford to carry for a very long time seems very unlikely. Never say never and all that but the probabilities of success seem awfully low for something even as moderately adventurous as a trip to Mars at lest for our form of life anyway.
I’m not losing sleep about being wiped out by aliens who have ridden our radio transmissions to find out about us. It is possible but....
Thank you for sharing that. But there is a different perspective of the “physics” if you are interested in exploring it?
What if they are not actually physically moving to travel? But instead they can just change their static location in Space/Time? If they are as advanced as I am guessing, they have mastered and utilized the entanglement theory of Quantum Physics and Space Time. And just like the proverbial StarTrek Transporter they can just wrap themselves into a package and then just relocate that package to a new location millions of light years away in a few seconds without physically traveling those miles and dangers.
So in other words when we see them darting around in the sky they are not physically moving at all and none of standard motion physics like inertia and G forces apply. They are gently manipulating space time within our own linear timeline to give us the optical illusion and visual perspective they are physically moving one direction or another. This would explain why they can move so fast and change directions so fast without turning themselves into liquid against the inside of their craft.
The more we learn about particle physics the more this appears to be a possibility. I think we are right now on the edge of discovering how the spooky entangled particles operate with dark energy/vacuum energy. We know the particles pop up from nowhere and then disappear again to who knows where. But I have a theory that they are not just relocating from place to place, or being created and then destroyed. I think they are a fog of particles that move all over the place in Space Time but are still all entangled with others in Space Time.
So if this Space Time particle energy could be harnessed, the control of Space Time I described above would absolutely be possible. And the physical forces of inertia and gravity would not apply. Not even linear time would apply... Here one minute there the next... And somewhere in the past, or in the present, or in the future. Just like dark vacuum energy particles do. Just have to make the principle universally apply to the whole package you are transporting through Space Time.
As for your second point about demons. There are always opposites in everything. When there is dark there also has to be an opposite light. Or you do not even have anything to gauge and compare the dark against... There is always up or down, hot or cold, left or right, loud or quiet, positive or negative, Male or female, Etc. Everything has an opposite. So with these entities there are both dark and light. One cannot exist without the opposite other to compare them against.
But are not demons enjoined by God from physically harming humanity? That is why they danhle temptation before us. Their target is not our bodies or even our human consciousness. Their target is our souls. So no, I do not believe these are demons. What they ate I have no real concrete speculation.
But physics applies to all physical beings.
Then explain how ufo’s supposedly have been seen to defy physics. Personally, I think whatever is being seen is supernatural. If so, whether Angels or demons remains to be seen.
“For me, the answer, not just religiously, but empirically, points to ET being demons. Fallen angels. And Demons really do hate us and want to serve us for dinner.”
You are implying other dimensional beings. This is exactly how you get around the inherent speed limits in 3 dimensional space time. Call it subspace, hyperspace it’s all the same thing another dimension of existence and travel as well. Physics says we need at least 11 dimensions to work at the quantum levels.
With enough energy you could bend space time , bend enough and you break it open or pull a wormhole through it. Humans don’t have access to energy levels or densities high enough but in a million years time with antimatter or zero point energy we certainly could. Any species with a few million years head start could be at this level today. Earth is 4.6 billion years old out sun is at least a third generation star this is know because we have metals like uranium and lead which can only form in very large previous stars and neutron star collisions it takes both to have all the elements of the periodic table so El Sol must be at least a gen 3 star.
There are as many stars in the sky as there are grains of sand on all of the world’s beaches the number if stars is higher but it’s a good analogy common people can get their minds around. More than half of all star’s have planet’s of some kind around them, red dwarf stars it’s more than half of then every one we look at has planet’s around it. Not surprising stars form from gas and debris clouds via gravity once the in fall starts the spinning puts a center of mass and a disk of material around it nearly every time it’s observed planet’s are the natural outcome of a disk of spinning materials around a central mass. Red dwarfs are the most common star we see there are trillions in the observable universe which means there are trillions and trillions of planet’s. It only takes a few to evolve life and given billions of years you will get intelligent life the properties of matter are universal as are the elements in the table.
It’s nearly impossible that life doesn’t exist somewhere else the math says there should be billions of planet’s in a zone like earth is in where liquid water can flow, salts are the natural product of rocky crustal planet’s too. You will have salt water everywhere in the universe you have warm rocky planets. Life LOVES salt water our blood is virtually identical to seawater in chemical composition as is most blood on this planet. Just saying.