The Shroud of Turin was not laid on Jesus' body, scientists reveal

Daily Mail UK ^ | August 01, 2025 | WILIAM HUNTER

[GingisK]

I find your responses simplistic if not simple minded; and a little insulting.

My entry into this fray is completely related to refuting the need for artifacts for Salvation and to remind people that time is supposed to be spent bringing other to Christ rather than oogling the icons. If you want to count that as simple-mindedness, take it up with the Bible and ultimately Christ.

[Jamestown1630]

I don’t see where anything in the original post referred to a ‘need’ for artifacts. It’s simply a man’s claim about the shroud.

And I haven’t seen that anyone here who believes the shroud to be Christ’s burial cloth has claimed that their Christian faith is based upon it.

You’re assuming arguments that nobody has raised.

[Jamestown1630]

I saw it. I don’t belong to any Church, and I know that some of the other people on this thread aren’t Catholic.

But now I see that your main motive on this thread lies in anti-Catholic sentiment. Thanks for the confirmation.

[GingisK]

I’m not anti-Catholic. I’m standing firm on Salvation through Grace alone, not by works. I’m on a quest to save Catholics.

[odawg]

The shroud looks like one of those Greek Orthodox icons.

[Jamestown1630]

Well I’m not a Catholic; but whenever somebody says they want to ‘save’ me from something I want to run like hell.

It usually means they’re arrogant egotists who really want to control me.

[GingisK]

;-D

I know just how you feel...

[Jamestown1630]

The Shroud didn’t look like much of anything until photography arrived.

[Tucker39]

I’ll prolly take some ridicule for this, but here goes anyhow. Some years ago a lad named Colton Burpo was made famous in a book and motion picture; “Heaven is For Real”. The story was that young Colton became ill and had a “near death” experience.

When he woke up from it he told about his experience. He’d been to Heaven. He’d met his deceased grampa, and picked him out in a photo album. He’d met an older sister of his who’d died as an infant and he’d never known about. Also, he told how he’d met the Lord Jesus and sat on His lap. For years afterward whenever he saw a likeness or representation of Christ, he shook his head and said it looked nothing like the Christ he’d seen in Heaven.

Until one day he was shown a painting portraying Jesus, done by a young American girl, which he declared to be the exact likeness of the Jesus he’d met. I’ve never felt good about the likeness on the shroud because it looks nothing like the painting Colton Burpo declared to be exact. So when I get to Heaven, I expect the Savior I meet there to look exactly like the young girl’s painting.

[Sirius Lee]

It has been know since the shroud was first revealed that it was created by man.

The shroud was likely weaved by a woman. The image may well have been made by man. Son of Man.

[Sirius Lee]

glorified body passing upward through the cloth

Rainbow body. (Nothing to do with teh gheys)

[Jamestown1630]

There are stories and testimonies just as convincing regarding memories of previous lifetimes - reincarnation.

Everyone has to judge these things by their own lights.

[Albion Wilde]

He is not understanding or accepting that the image was made by supernatural energy emanating from the body milliseconds before the Christ awoke, like a flash camera on film. He is trying to fit it into everyday physics.

If it had been a natural image, it wouldn’t have looked like his simulation,either. It would have had seeping body fluids pooling here and there, and large smears from the motion of throwoing off the fabric when arising. I doubt that it was warm and dry in an undergroiund tomb, so that everything would have dried up by Sunday, including liquids seeped out and compressed underneath. .

[Dave911]

Uh, I don’t believe that is what I said.

[21twelve]

I recall some researcher that studied it (some top gal in nuclear physics I think) and she showed how the image was straight up and straight down iirc - like on a copy machine. She talked about a “singularity” or something - like the “Big Bang” of creation. Which sort of makes sense.

If God created the universe in what we call the big bang, I can imagine a similar manner of creating life out of death. Even she said that the image is not what one would get if draped over a body or statue with wet paint on it.