The Man They Called ‘Trane’, Remembering A Jazz Giant

Udiscovermusic ^ | July 17, 2025 | Richard Havers

[nickcarraway]

Ruby, My Dear - Thelonious Monk

John Coltrane - Mr. P.C.

[gibsonguy]

I never liked Trane. I tried, I really did because he was considered great by so many but nope l just didn’t. He seemed to have absolutely no grasp of the less is more concept.

[Hyman Roth]

Was he related to Roscoe P. Coltrane?

[waterhill]

Wes was cool.

[Fai Mao]

I liked more Blusey jazz. Freddy Hubbard, those guys.

[gibsonguy]

Wes was one of the greats, top 5 without a doubt. Can’t go wrong with Miles in the cool period.

[gibsonguy]

I’m with you for sure. I dislike bebop.. a lot.

[Mariner]

He was a great sideman to Miles Davis.

Davis kept him on script.

But when left to his own devices...his playing degenerated.

[Blue Highway]

I love John Coltrane's music during the 50's and early to mid 60's. One of my favorites is My Favorite Things from 1961. I like the idea he went with a soprano sax after being known for using tenor for well over a decade. Can't go wrong with Giant Steps as well.

John Coltrane - My Favorite Things

[waterhill]

Fact. Wes and Miles never hooked up. Fact.

Drives me nuts but it is true. Man that would have been freaking awesome!@!

[Mr. Mojo]

<< But when left to his own devices...his playing degenerated. >>

Yes, eventually. To me, albums like Ascension and Meditations (both released in ‘66) and everything after that are noise — unlistenable. But between ‘60 (when he left Miles) and ‘65 he put out some great (albeit inconsistent) music.

[real saxophonist]

That song is hypnotizing, I had the privilege of meeting McCoy Tyner years ago.

[real saxophonist]

What do you think of Emily Remler?

[Mr. Mojo]

Cool. In the early ‘90s I saw McCoy a few times and Elvin Jones once, both at the Catalina Bar & Grill in L.A. Tyner’s shows were hypnotizing for sure.

[real saxophonist]

In college I had a Jazz show every Wednesday night. GA Southern.

Now I listen to KUVO, a Jazz station out of Denver.

[real saxophonist]

He seemed to have absolutely no grasp of the less is more concept.

No, he didn't. Because later, his approach came to be called "Sheets of Sound".

So not really a good comparison.

[nickcarraway]

Wes Montgomery?

[Blue Highway]

It sure is. Love McCoy Tyner’s comping on that tune as well.

[real saxophonist]

I also had the privilege of meeting Michael Brecker.

[real saxophonist]

I've heard people refer to Michael Brecker as "Just another Coltrane Clone."

I disagree.