Posted on 07/21/2025 9:27:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
In history class we all learn about "ancient civilizations", like Greece, Persia, Babylon, and Rome. Recorded history, however, starts several thousand years prior to Greece or Rome, for example, being around. So, what did they know about the past? Did ancient civilizations have any ancient civilizations of their own?
Did Ancient Civilizations Have Their Own Ancient Civilizations? | 24:35
The Historian's Craft | 103K subscribers | 277,364 views | October 12, 2024 Sources:
A History of the Ancient Near East, Marc Van De Mieroop
A History of Babylon, 2200 BC - AD 75, Paul-Alain Beaulieu
Reign of Nabonidus, King of Babylon, Paul-Alain Beaulieu
Babylonian Archaeologists of the(ir) Mesopotamian Past, I. J. WinterChapters
Herodotus
Greek historian and geographer (c.484–c.425 BC)
Xenophon
Greek philosopher, historian, and soldier (c. 430 – 355/354 BC)
Napoleon Bonaparte
Emperor of the French (r. 1804–1814, 1815)
Nabonidus
Last king of the Neo-Babylonian Empire (r. 556–539 BC)
Nabopolassar
Founder and first king of the Neo-Babylonian Empire
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--> YouTube-Generated Transcript <-- · Intro 0:07 · the current chronology that we use to 0:09 · break up the past tends to broadly 0:12 · speaking be broken up into several 0:14 · discret chunks book ended by what we 0:17 · understand in the modern day to be 0:18 · significant historical events so broadly 0:22 · this is what we understand to be ancient 0:24 · classical Medieval Renaissance or early 0:26 · modern history and then eventually the 0:29 · modern era and all of these can be · The Three Age System 0:31 · broken down even more and you can add in 0:34 · things like prehistory which then leads 0:36 · us to what's known as the three age 0:38 · system or Stone Age Bronze Age and Iron 0:42 · Age and you can tweak this even further 0:44 · by throwing in the copper age and you 0:46 · can subdivide the Stone Age into 0:47 · different segments this is where 0:49 · Paleolithic misthic and Neolithic come 0:52 · into play and these various divisions 0:54 · lead me to the topic of this video in 0:56 · the modern day we have a period that we 0:58 · call ancient history 1:00 · and it's populated by what we understand 1:02 · to be ancient civilizations if however 1:05 · you were to go back to the ancient era 1:07 · or even the classical era how would they 1:10 · understand the past did ancient 1:11 · civilizations have ancient civilizations 1:14 · of their 1:15 · own this is sort of a difficult question 1:18 · to answer but it's a fun one and the 1:20 · answer is both yes and no at the same 1:23 · time depending on how you look at it in 1:26 · a way we're not really asking whether or 1:27 · not these older cultures had a notion of 1:29 · History that is the recorded past so · What this video is not 1:32 · much as we're asking about the status of 1:34 · ancient and classical knowledge about 1:36 · that past how they knew what they knew 1:38 · or thought they knew and about their 1:40 · historiography so what I want to do in 1:42 · this video then is take a look at a few 1:44 · different examples starting with the 1:45 · most recent ones and then moving 1:47 · backward Through Time into earlier 1:49 · cultures and civilizations but before I 1:52 · get to that I want to take a couple of 1:54 · seconds and just briefly address what 1:55 · this video is and what it is not there 1:59 · are a ton of different examples you can 2:01 · look at when you try to answer this 2:03 · question and at some point I know 2:05 · somebody in the comments is going to 2:06 · write something along the lines of well 2:09 · what about Stonehenge or new grain or 2:12 · the various standing stones and 2:13 · megaliths throughout Europe and your 2:15 · Asia more broadly and North and South 2:18 · America as well I am not dealing with 2:20 · that sort of thing in this video not 2:22 · because ancient and classical peoples 2:24 · didn't have thoughts about it or because 2:26 · it does not deserve an answer but 2:28 · because it's a slight different question 2:31 · which involves a slightly different 2:33 · answer and dealing with things like 2:34 · megaliths and Barrow tombs and thunder 2:37 · Stones things of that nature various 2:40 · artifacts that aren't clearly associated 2:43 · with what ancient peoples were 2:45 · considered to be a civilization very 2:47 · quickly leaves the realm of what they 2:49 · thought history was in the past and it 2:52 · starts getting into things like folklore 2:55 · so you start dealing with things like 2:56 · the Fay and whites and other things of 2:59 · that nature so it's going to be a 3:01 · separate video in this one we're going 3:03 · to be talking about some texts and some 3:05 · archaeology anyway the first example is 3:07 · going to be centered around the 3:09 · classical Greeks but before we get to · Greek History 3:11 · that we have to understand how the 3:12 · Greeks conceptualize the past 3:15 · essentially there were two sort of 3:17 · separate but sort of interwoven ideas on 3:21 · the one hand you have the history of the 3:23 · pelian war by thides and you have the 3:26 · histories written by Herodotus thides 3:29 · attempted to based his history on as 3:31 · many facts and reliable information that 3:33 · he could possibly gather and he claimed 3:35 · to write with impartial Detachment his 3:38 · account is generally what we understand 3:39 · to be the beginning of scientific 3:42 · history Herodotus on the other hand did 3:45 · not necessarily attempt to verify every 3:47 · single thing he wrote about although he 3:49 · tried when and where he was able to do 3:51 · so the histories is largely in account 3:54 · of the Greco Persian War although other 3:56 · places people and events are included in 3:58 · it including tall tales and legends for 4:01 · which Herodotus was ridiculed both in 4:03 · his own day and in the present hence his 4:06 · moniker the father of Lies the overall 4:08 · point however is that both of these 4:10 · Greek historians were writing about 4:12 · events broadly speaking in their own day 4:16 · and to a degree in the past as regards 4:19 · Herodotus so their conception of history 4:22 · is something as largely being here and 4:25 · now quote unquote the other conception 4:28 · of the past in the Greek mind was one of 4:30 · succeeding ages in which each age was a 4:32 · deterioration of the previous one and 4:34 · this also shows up in the writings of 4:36 · Herodotus just as one example these are 4:39 · generally known as the ages of man and 4:41 · they come from hot's worked and days and 4:43 · his theogony broadly contemporaneous 4:46 · with Homer if Homer did indeed exist so 4:48 · roughly the 8th Century BC he believed 4:51 · that mankind was living in the Iron Age 4:54 · and in the Iron Age life was violent and 4:56 · it was generally unpleasant before that 4:59 · came the age of Heroes when Jason and 5:01 · the Argonauts and Heracles and the other 5:03 · Heroes of Greek myth roamed the Earth in 5:06 · each age men became smaller which is why 5:08 · you read in surviving sources from the 5:10 · Greek world of finds of things like 5:12 · giant bones and things of that nature · The Iron Age 5:14 · now these could be fossils that's 5:16 · entirely possible but in the context of 5:19 · the Greek outlook on the world that is 5:21 · the Iron Age it fits the schema better 5:24 · to interpret these supposed finds as 5:26 · related to the deterioration of those 5:28 · previous ages 5:30 · so when it comes to Greek conceptions of 5:32 · what we would understand to be ancient 5:34 · history at some point you leave the 5:36 · mental framework of somebody like thides 5:39 · and eventually you enter into the realm 5:42 · of Mythology folklore and the five ages 5:45 · of man now the Greeks were very aware 5:48 · that there were cultures older than 5:50 · theirs and they were very honest about 5:52 · which cultures those were such as 5:55 · Egypt but ruins and things of that 5:58 · nature passed a certain point were 6:01 · explained by reference to the five ages 6:03 · of man they were aware of some sort of a 6:05 · deep past but they did not properly 6:08 · understand what those things were or how 6:10 · deep that past actually was and past a 6:14 · certain point they tried to take what 6:17 · they saw around them and fit it into 6:19 · this mythological chronology that moved 6:22 · from a tangible verifiable history into 6:25 · essentially the realm of myth so in 401 6:28 · BC cus the younger attempted to claim 6:31 · the Throne of Persia and thus take it 6:32 · from his brother araz xeres II but in 6:36 · order to do that Cyrus required an army 6:39 · and being the satrap of Lydia and Ionia 6:42 · he did have some resources but perhaps 6:44 · not enough of what he was planning to do 6:46 · so he very famously hired an army 6:49 · primarily of Greeks known to us as the 6:52 · 10,000 this Army marched into the Sands 6:55 · of the near East and about 70 km north 6:58 · of Babylon they fought fought at the 7:00 · Battle of kunoa in 401 BC and although 7:03 · they won Cyrus was killed in the 7:07 · fighting and hence the 10,000 have a 7:10 · problem they're now stuck way Behind 7:12 · Enemy Lines and they have to figure out 7:13 · a way to get back home so kunaka was 7:15 · fought near the city of Babylon and 7:17 · hence the 10,000 were standing in a very 7:20 · ancient land where at that point 7:23 · recorded history as we understand it 7:25 · today having found ancient clay tablets 7:28 · and other records goes back about 3 or 7:31 · 4,000 years from the time the 10,000 7:34 · were standing there and it's an area 7:36 · where soldiers and Kings had fought and 7:38 · died for Millennia by this point it's a 7:41 · pattern that's really never stopped the 7:43 · near East is sometimes called the 7:45 · crossroads of the world and for good 7:47 · reason it's were some of the first · The Near East 7:49 · civilizations arose and the Ghost of 7:52 · those civilizations still dotted the 7:53 · landscape in the form of ruins during 7:56 · the time of the classical Greeks now 7:58 · xenophon one one of the leaders of the 8:00 · 10,000 and their principal historian 8:03 · recorded in the fourth chapter of the 8:04 · third book of his account that the Army 8:06 · had to cross some sort of a Gorge but 8:09 · when they tried to do this they were 8:11 · attacked the Greeks did beat off their 8:12 · opponents and they marched the rest of 8:14 · the day and eventually they reached the 8:17 · banks of the Tigris River and when they 8:20 · got there xenophon recorded that there 8:22 · were the ruins of Two Cities nearby he 8:25 · calls them Lissa and MPA and he also 8:28 · tells us that both of the cities were 8:30 · once occupied by the mes the problem 8:33 · though is that these are actually the 8:34 · wrong names and he sort of kind of 8:38 · identified the wrong people although the 8:40 · mes did occupy these two cities they 8:43 · were built actually by the Assyrians 8:45 · Lissa is the city known to the Assyrians 8:47 · as Nimrod and MPA is the city known as 8:50 · Nineveh the capital of the great Neo 8:53 · Assyrian Empire the Neo Syrian empire 8:55 · fell around 609 BC with Nimrod falling 8:58 · to a combined Babylonian median assault 9:01 · in 614 BC and Nineveh falling and 9:04 · essentially being burned looted and 9:06 · horribly sacked in 9:09 · 612 another way of putting this is that 9:11 · about only 200 years separate the 9:13 · collapse of the Neo Syrian Empire from 9:15 · the march of the 10,000 now I wrote the 9:18 · script for this video towards the end of 9:21 · 2024 209 years ago was the Battle of 9:25 · waterl and with it the end of Napoleon 9:27 · bonapart Napoleon's era and the end of 9:30 · the French Revolution and French 9:31 · Revolutionary Wars more broadly this is 9:34 · one of the most well-known and one of 9:36 · the most intensively studied periods 9:38 · given its immense importance for the 9:40 · modern world apparently more biographies 9:43 · and works on Napoleon have been written 9:45 · since there are days since he died we 9:48 · know about him and yet during the time 9:51 · of xenophon looking at a comparable time 9:54 · span about 200 9:56 · years he seems to know nothing about the 9:59 · Neo Syrian 10:00 · Empire and this essentially seems to 10:03 · have vanished from memory Nineveh the 10:05 · fres capital was abandoned so what are 10:09 · we to make of this well Nineveh and 10:11 · Nimrod were not cities designed to 10:13 · support themselves that is to say that 10:15 · these were administrative centers first 10:17 · and foremost that depended on tribute 10:21 · and taxes and resources gained from 10:24 · outside so while Nineveh was eventually 10:27 · resettled and eventually rebuilt during 10:29 · the saluca Empire after the collapse of 10:32 · Assyria the ideology and the 10:34 · bureaucratic structures that enabled 10:36 · something like Nineveh to even exist 10:38 · were no longer needed the state 10:40 · essentially 10:41 · disintegrated the Neo Syrian Empire was 10:44 · a state that was heavily based around 10:46 · Conquest tribute and population 10:48 · transfers when a region was conquered it 10:50 · was not unusual for the Assyrians to 10:52 · force large percentages of the 10:54 · population to move to somewhere else in 10:56 · the Empire think of the mass movement of 10:58 · the ethnic German 10:59 · and ethnic minorities in the Soviet 11:01 · Union in the 20th century to get some 11:04 · sort of a visual picture on what this 11:06 · may have looked like we're talking 11:08 · hundreds of thousands if not eventually 11:11 · millions of people seems to be one of 11:13 · the main reasons for the collapse of 11:14 · this state It produced structural 11:16 · weaknesses and after the sack of Nineveh 11:19 · other more local Powers took over and 11:21 · because they did not base themselves 11:23 · around the same sort of ideology of 11:25 · world Conquest that the Assyrians did 11:27 · the impact of that state began to fade 11:30 · now the Greeks did know about Assyria 11:32 · they were very clear about this they 11:33 · knew a state called Assyria existed in 11:36 · the near East at some point the problem 11:39 · is they don't seem to have been very 11:41 · clear on when at some point actually was 11:44 · it shows up in the writing it shows up 11:46 · in the writing of the Persians and it 11:48 · shows up in the Old Testament but very 11:50 · quickly it seems that the memory of the 11:52 · Assyrian Empire became pretty garbled 11:54 · and pretty murky the Greeks knew of 11:56 · Assyria but very quickly their 11:58 · understanding starts deal dealing with 11:59 · things like mythical Kings and the like 12:01 · so that 2 centuries or so later by the 12:04 · time of xenophon the 10,000 apparently 12:06 · don't even realize where they're 12:09 · standing these cities while they were 12:12 · recognized as cities were misattributed 12:15 · to the medians and other ruins such as 12:17 · those of urartu an early Iron Age 12:20 · Kingdom in Eastern Turkey and Armenia 12:23 · were misidentified as being a Syrian so 12:25 · essentially the entire historical memory 12:28 · becomes very murky 12:29 · very fast thus far we've largely been 12:31 · talking about Greek conceptions of the 12:33 · past but there are even older · Ancient Mesopotamia 12:35 · civilizations and in this case some of 12:38 · our best evidence for answering this 12:40 · type of question comes from the 12:42 · Babylonians specifically the neo- 12:44 · Babylonians who overthrew the Neo 12:46 · syrians with some help from the mes and 12:49 · their king nabonidus who ruled the Neo 12:51 · Babylonian Empire between about 556 and 12:54 · about 539 BC has sometimes been called 12:57 · the world's first archaeologist and his 12:59 · daughter analdi kept a museum apparently 13:02 · filled with several dozen ancient 13:04 · artifacts the ancient Mesopotamians had 13:07 · a very clear conception of some sort of 13:09 · a longstanding historical tradition 13:12 · although not necessarily in the way that 13:13 · we would understand it their conception 13:15 · revolved heavily around religion and 13:17 · legitimizing claims to rulership hence 13:20 · the past was considered deeply important 13:22 · because it Formed something like 13:24 · cultural capital to help reinforce those 13:26 · claims to leadership today the city of 13:29 · CAD the capital of the Acadian Empire 13:31 · the first Empire in recorded history 13:34 · that we know of is actually lost and 13:36 · although there are some ideas about 13:38 · where it might be located including a 13:40 · specific site near modern day Baghdad 13:43 · the kings of the Neo Babylonian Empire 13:46 · which spanned about 626 BC to 539 BC 13:50 · including the aforementioned nabonidus 13:52 · apparently knew where the city was and 13:55 · apparently they excavated portions of it 13:58 · and engaged in what we would understand 14:00 · to be something like restoration work so 14:03 · in this sense yes ancient peoples did 14:06 · have genuine ancient civilizations of 14:08 · their own and for the rest of this video 14:11 · we're essentially going to be talking 14:12 · about what can be described as Neo 14:14 · Babylonian archology of their Babylonian 14:17 · Assyrian and Acadian past ancient 14:19 · Mesopotamia has a long long tradition of 14:22 · sacred kingship and this is basically 14:25 · what forms the background to the 14:26 · archaeology conducted not only by nantis 14:29 · but other neo-babylonian kings like 14:31 · nabopolassar and Nebuchadnezzar II sites 14:34 · were not just selected for excavation or 14:36 · restoration work at random instead it 14:39 · was often revealed to the monarchs 14:41 · through some sort of a divine 14:42 · intervention like a dream or a rainstorm 14:46 · or a flood something of that nature 14:48 · which we'll be talking about more in a 14:49 · minute and the excavations were done to 14:52 · fulfill Divine will the sites chosen for 14:54 · excavation in this manner were the major 14:56 · cities of the ancient near East Babylon 14:59 · for Fairly obvious reasons as it was the 15:01 · capital of the Neo Babylonian Empire and 15:04 · an ancient city in its own right 15:06 · certainly by the time of nabonidus but 15:07 · also aad nepur Larsa separ Kish Uruk and 15:12 · Ur and at Ur specifically there does · Ancient Babylon 15:15 · actually appear to be evidence that the 15:17 · great zigurat of the order 3 period 15:20 · otherwise known as the NEOS summerian 15:21 · Empire which dates between about the 15:24 · 22nd and about the 21st centuy BC was 15:28 · actually expanded during the Neo 15:30 · Babylonian Empire another way of 15:32 · conceptualizing that is that the Neo 15:34 · Babylonians restored and expanded a 15:36 · temple complex which was something like 15:38 · 1700 years old by that point the 15:41 · structure had evidently fallen into 15:43 · disrepair by the time of the Neo 15:45 · Babylonian State and when it was 15:46 · excavated in the early 20th century the 15:49 · original foundations were uncovered as 15:51 · well as much later restoration at the 15:53 · top of the zigurat dating to the time of 15:56 · King nabonidus and in a Cod 15:59 · Nebuchadnezzar II was looking for the 16:00 · Temple of ishar the famous ulash and he 16:03 · dug trenches in the city attempting to 16:05 · locate the foundations of this building 16:07 · now he apparently failed but evidently 16:11 · nabonidus claims to have succeeded in 16:14 · this endeavor he apparently found the 16:15 · foundations of this Temple and we have 16:18 · four different texts concerning the 16:19 · restoration of ancient temples and here 16:22 · I mean ancient even to the Neo 16:24 · Babylonians they come to us in the form 16:26 · of three cylinder seals and one tablet 16:29 · and they tell us that nabonidus restored 16:31 · four different temples and according to 16:33 · those records nabonidus workers were 16:35 · digging in the trenches dug by 16:37 · Nebuchadnezzar for 3 years expanding and 16:40 · going in different directions and still 16:42 · they found nothing until as luck would 16:44 · have it or divine intervention in 16:46 · keeping with the understanding of the 16:48 · neo- Babylonian Kings a sudden rainstorm 16:51 · created a channel in the earth and 16:52 · nabonidus halted work in the trenches 16:55 · and he ordered his workers and field 16:57 · directors to dig in that spot and 16:59 · apparently this is where they located 17:01 · the temple to ishar now is that real 17:06 · well you would be forgiven if you were 17:07 · to say no because that does just sound 17:09 · like either divine intervention or 17:11 · really just plain dumb luck but natis 17:15 · may indeed have found this Temple the 17:17 · city of aad today is lost but there is 17:19 · an archaeological site called the tel 17:21 · Muhammad which is one of the proposed 17:23 · locations for the city and excavation 17:26 · there by modern-day archaeologists has 17:29 · revealed a temple not of the Neo 17:30 · Babylonian period but of a much older 17:33 · era potentially Acadian and it contained 17:37 · work credited to King nabonidus texts 17:39 · were also important in this regard and 17:42 · evidently the older the writing the 17:43 · better a great example here is the 17:46 · tablet of shamash or the tablet of the 17:48 · sun god so this tablet was discovered in 17:50 · the early 1880s during excavation and it 17:53 · was found broken into eight different 17:55 · pieces and it dates to about the 9th 17:57 · century BC 17:59 · associated with Nabu appla Adena king of 18:02 · Babylon and there are 15 passages 18:04 · written on this tablet and it tells us 18:07 · essentially that somewhere on the 18:09 · Western Bank of the Euphrates an image 18:12 · of the God baked in clay was located 18:15 · that image was recognized as being very 18:18 · very old from at least the old 18:20 · Babylonian period so about 1894 BC to 18:24 · about 1595 BC in other words 7al hundred 18:27 · years before this King managed to get a 18:29 · hold of it and he used it to 18:31 · reconstitute a cult of this Sun God we 18:34 · can tell that this God is older than the 18:36 · n9th century basically by the artwork it 18:39 · doesn't match the styles of the 9th 18:40 · century and because we don't live in the 18:43 · 9th century a way to maybe think about 18:45 · this would be and the examples are not 18:47 · going to be exact but it would be sort 18:49 · of like having let's say an Andy Warhol 18:52 · painting dating to the 1960s and you 18:54 · know it's the 1960s but there's also a 18:57 · figure in the painting that looks like 18:59 · it came right out of a Viking runstone 19:01 · from the 10th Century in Sweden it 19:04 · stands out and it's very clearly older 19:08 · so 200 years later nabonidus the main 19:11 · subject of this portion of the video 19:13 · evidently found this same tablet and 19:15 · when he did there were two copies of it 19:17 · that had been made and the original was 19:19 · housed in a fired clay box for 19:21 · safekeeping and this was encased in clay 19:24 · for further protection which produced a 19:25 · copy of the tablet on either side and 19:29 · while neo- Babylonians were certainly 19:30 · interested in the history of the ancient 19:32 · near East and while they did undertake 19:34 · archaeological digs to excavate the past 19:37 · and to use old artifacts and images like 19:40 · the image of shamash to bolster their 19:42 · claims through Imperial rulership they 19:44 · were certainly not above forgeries in 19:46 · the pursuit of that attempt to bolster 19:48 · their claims the key artifact here is · The crucifer Monument 19:51 · the crucifer Monument of Manis tushu 19:54 · discovered in 1881 and this is an 19:56 · inscribed stone whose writing attempts 19:58 · to established the artifact as being a 20:00 · Cadian but which was actually shown to 20:03 · be a Neo Babylonian forgery although at 20:05 · one point it was thought to be an old 20:07 · Babylonian 20:09 · forgery it claimed to be created at the 20:12 · beest of Manish tushu the son of Saron 20:14 · ofad and it declares that the renewal of 20:17 · the worship of the God shamash and His 20:19 · Associated rights should take place but 20:22 · it in fact is not what matters though is 20:26 · that it shows very clearly that the 20:28 · textual record mattered to people like 20:30 · nabonidus and the Neo Babylonian Kings 20:33 · and it shows that they had some sort of 20:35 · an idea about what it would have taken 20:37 · to establish Imperial legitimacy by 20:39 · drawing on the Deep past and on Ancient 20:41 · religion and it's because of the 20:43 · importance placed on religion that the 20:45 · neo-babylonian Kings emphasized digging 20:47 · down to the actual Foundation of ancient 20:49 · temples and restoring them where 20:52 · possible nebas uncovered the Temple of 20:54 · istar at aad which I mentioned a few 20:56 · minutes ago and which archaeology in the 20:59 · modern day may have found and when he 21:02 · restored the temple he made it extremely 21:04 · clear that the bricks of the restored 21:07 · building were to be placed on the tops 21:09 · of the original foundations and to be 21:11 · exactly on top it was to be as if the 21:13 · temple had never fallen into ruin in the 21:15 · first place NABA palasa the first king 21:18 · of the neo- Babylonian Empire basically 21:20 · did something similar with the walls of 21:22 · Babylon itself Excavating down to the 21:25 · foundations and when he located it he 21:28 · took it as a Divine sign and then he 21:30 · rebuilt them incorporating the original 21:32 · foundations into his 21:34 · construction when the Neo Babylonian 21:36 · Kings did things like this they 21:38 · explicitly looked for the foundation 21:40 · deposits usually taking the form of a 21:42 · text I am so and so I ordered this 21:45 · construction that sort of thing they 21:48 · apparently read them or claimed they did 21:51 · claimed they could read this old writing 21:53 · and they had their own Foundation 21:54 · tablets made as close as possible to the 21:58 · original 21:59 · and place them alongside the ancient 22:00 · ones and then rebuilt the structure now 22:03 · this would have been extremely easy to 22:05 · just demolish the ruins and start again 22:07 · from scratch but the care that nabonidus 22:09 · and his fellow king showed for the 22:11 · ancient past is not only remarkable but 22:13 · it was designed to establish themselves 22:15 · as the inheritors of ancient religious 22:17 · practices to venerate the same or 22:19 · similar gods and thus in that sense to 22:22 · claim to be the legitimate successors of 22:25 · the ancient Kings now some of those · Museum of Analdi 22:27 · artifacts were gathered and they were 22:29 · put on display basically for the same 22:31 · purposes and this is where we get to the 22:33 · famous Museum of analdi the daughter of 22:36 · nabonidus and the Priestess of the Moon 22:38 · God sin at the city of UR this was a 22:41 · religious office which had not been 22:42 · filled in over 600 years and it was 22:45 · resurrected by nabonidus once again we 22:47 · see the attempts of a neo- Babylonian 22:49 · King to claim legitimacy by utilizing 22:51 · the ancient past her museum is probably 22:54 · the first one in the world or at least 22:56 · it's the earliest one that we know about 22:58 · with any certainty and it contained 23:00 · dozens of artifacts from across southern 23:02 · Mesopotamia spanning over 1,000 years 23:05 · now there was another Museum in Babylon 23:08 · or what we think was a museum it's been 23:10 · disputed because apparently not all the 23:12 · artifacts came from the same area of the 23:14 · dig site that was attributed to King 23:17 · nabonidus and may have been used by 23:19 · earlier Kings like Nebuchadnezzar II if 23:22 · that's indeed what the structure was 23:24 · temples also functioned in this manner 23:26 · and many of the artifacts that have been 23:28 · brought up in this video The cruciform 23:30 · Monument the sun tablet as well as 23:32 · inscribed a Cadian maces and bowls from 23:34 · the uro period basically the first city 23:37 · in the ancient near East and which were 23:38 · repaired at some point in Antiquity 23:40 · apparently were found by archaeologists 23:42 · in the 1880s at a Neo Babylonian Temple 23:45 · dedicated to the god shamash in the city 23:48 · of Sapar essentially this functioned as 23:50 · a museum so just a couple examples to 23:52 · try and answer this question did ancient 23:54 · civilizations have ancient civilizations 23:57 · of Their Own yes they did but their 24:01 · understanding of what those 24:01 · civilizations actually were very often 24:04 · were not accurate so that's it for this 24:06 · one everybody if you want to do some 24:08 · more reading about this subject and 24:09 · really go on a deep dive the sources 24:11 · I've used for the research in this video 24:13 · are going to be listed in the 24:14 · description and they are an excellent 24:16 · jumping off point take care everybody if 24:19 · you're dealing with the hurricanes in 24:20 · the south of the US please stay safe 24:23 · hope you enjoyed and I will see you all 24:25 · next time
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Confucius, who lived in 500 BC, also looked to ancient civilizations of the past
Analects 3.14 “The Zhou dynasty looked to the two preceding dynasties [Xia and Shang]. How rich and beautiful is its culture! I follow Zhou.”
In Analects 7.5, he laments the decline of these values: “How I long for the days of old, when the people were simple and honest!”
Thus it was, thus it will always be.
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
—Socrates
“What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?”
–-Plato
“I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words… When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise [disrespectful] and impatient of restraint”.
—Hesoid 8BC
“We live in a decaying age. Young people no longer respect their parents. They are rude and impatient. They frequently inhabit taverns and have no self control” Inscription on a 6,000 year old Egyptian tomb
This YouTube video explores whether ancient civilizations had concepts of their own "ancient civilizations," examining how past cultures understood deep history.
I think there have been many civilizations that rose and fell of which we will never know. I also believe that our civilization is going to join them.
Thanks for this.
Every culture has its flood myths.
Noah certainly didn’t build the arc by himself. He was a King or a religious leader who could command thousands of workers.
The flood story is really a store about a Near extinction level event where mankind barely survived.
Interesting the bible ends with the book of revelation which is also a Near extinction level event.
Modern humans have been around for ~ 300k years and Neanderthals ~450k.
We know so little about the past and much of what we think we know is probably wrong.
Noah certainly didn’t build the arc by himself. He was a King or a religious leader who could command thousands of workers.
Can't take Noah's story literally. You have to look at it as a theological allegory with a deeper spiritual meaning. The only thing we know that is true is the flood story because every civilization (in the known world) had to deal with a "great flood".
What we actually know about ancient civilizations can be determined by the Biblee. Anything before that, it seems there is a lot of guesswork being done.
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“Can’t take Noah’s story literally.”
I don’t.
What I take away from the story is that their was a massive world wide flood and a near extinction event. It also implies that their was some form of civilization that was wiped out.
The comet research group has been investigating a potential comet impact ~ 12k years ago. Gramm Hancock has grifted off their work but buy are legitimate scientists.
“How long can you tread water?”
If I'm an archeologist, I would be interested in what happened specifically in the Fertile Crescent, Egypt and Indus Valley.
There must be a weather pattern happening just as civilizations started to emerge that nearly wiped them out.
Monsoons would make sense.
Thanks!
My pleasure.
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