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Windows 10’s end of life looms. A security pro dissects your only options
PCWorld ^ | July 17,2025 | Alaina Yee

Posted on 07/18/2025 1:35:20 PM PDT by fireman15

Choose wisely. Your PC could end up vulnerable to online threats otherwise.

This fall, Windows 10 will reach its end of life—at least, as defined by Microsoft. On October 14, the company ends feature updates to the operating system. Security and stability updates also become restricted—a potential liability, depending on the choices you make now.

To help users successfully navigate Windows 10’s extinction event, Adam Patrick Murray sat down with ethical hacker Mike Danseglio to talk options. The goal: To find the best option for your PC to stay current with security updates and patches, no matter the age of your hardware. AI tools have increased the speed and volume of online attacks, with vulnerabilities more easily discovered and exploited.

The duo frames the possibilities as a decision tree, with two main branches: PCs compatible with Windows 11, and those that aren’t. For systems ready for Windows 11, Mike simply recommends upgrading—and making the jump before the October sunset. I echo this advice, as doing it well before the deadline ensures your PC will keep receiving uninterrupted security patches.

(Not sure if your PC’s compatible? If it has an Intel 8th-gen or Ryzen 2000 chip, you’re probably fine. Windows Update—or a Microsoft nag screen—will tell you.)

If your Windows 10 computer is too old to upgrade to Windows 11, you can choose between five different potential paths—but only three are smart choices, according to Mike:

Do nothing Buy a new device Pay for updates Modify your Windows install Install another OS Doing nothing leaves you open to vulnerabilities in Windows 10, which attackers will unearth as time passes. Exploits could then allow hackers to run code on your PC, steal your data, or even potentially remotely render your hardware unusable.

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To: TexasGator
You can't download it for free or obtain legitimate licenses through typical retail channels.

OK... https://www.gamers-outlet.net/index.php?route=product/search

I have been dealing with this company for a long time.

Here is their Trustpilot ratings page.

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.gamers-outlet.net

Out of 37,431 reviews... most of them are overwhelmingly positive giving them an average of 4.6.

Can review sites be gamed? Obviously, but the other review sites have given them overwhelmingly positive ratings as well. I have no association with them at all other than purchasing licenses from them for years, all of them have worked. I always suspect any company which is selling license keys which I have mentioned in my comments.

I have also purchased license keys directly from software developers. I have spent a lot of money on some. On occasion the companies that I purchased them from went out of business or were sold to other entities. The keys and the software then quit working, and I had no recourse. I was just out of luck. So, I am very sensitive to paying for products that quite working after a period of time.

61 posted on 07/18/2025 3:10:23 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: MayflowerMadam

“For some reason, Win 10 won’t open some .jpg files that Win 7 will.”

Install Paintshop Pro 5 (1998 freeware program). It opens and edits most graphics formats and doesn’t require any registry entries so it can be copied from machine to machine. I have used it since Windows 95 on every version right up to Win 11 without any problems.


62 posted on 07/18/2025 3:10:32 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: fireman15

Bookmark.


63 posted on 07/18/2025 3:13:02 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: fireman15

” I still prefer Windows 10.”

One thing I like in 11 is the print screen button. Instead of grabbing the whole screen, it lets you designate the exact part of the screen you want. Then you can paste it in Paintshop Pro 5 for editing without having to start with a crop.


64 posted on 07/18/2025 3:14:47 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: plain talk; fireman15

How you you go about doing the
“paying $30/yr for 2 years” option?


65 posted on 07/18/2025 3:16:52 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: fireman15
I run a wide assortment of irreplaceable software tools on my Windows box. These all pertain to embedded development for a number of CPUs. This includes compilers, chip programmers, logic analyzers, CPLD development suites, schematic/PCB development, 3D modeling software, as well as a flat-purchased Photoshop. Thousands of dollars of actual purchased software is at stake.

This pretty much eliminates the ability to migrate to Linux or the MAC. Most of this is not available at any price, that which is available is too expensive to repurchase.

66 posted on 07/18/2025 3:27:58 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Repeal The 17th

Looks like for individual Windows 10 users it is $30 for year 1 but not sure if you extend it beyond one year.

Windows 10 for enterprises allow you to extend support for up to three years. Still checking this out.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/extended-security-updates


67 posted on 07/18/2025 3:32:16 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

Thanks.
Please reply back if you come across any more information.


68 posted on 07/18/2025 3:34:18 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: fireman15


OK... https://www.gamers-outlet.net/index.php?route=product/search

Search
There is no product that matches the search criteria.


69 posted on 07/18/2025 3:36:22 PM PDT by TexasGator (/i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: Myrddin
No rush to update/upgrade right now.

/i You are of course eminently more qualified than I am to make the determination as to whether one should rush to do this upgrade. The primary goal is to preserve the usefulness of hardware that is out of date but still has an impressive and expensive to duplicate feature set.

I would note that there are approximately a billion devices running various forms of Windows 10, many with owners who have little to no awareness that their machines are about to become riskier to use when connected to the internet. Regardless of precedence with previous operating systems this is a situation created by Microsoft which they and hardware manufacturers hope to profit from.

I am not sure that the licenses being sold by third party providers are completely legit. But even if there is some form of skullduggery taking place... the supply is still likely to become restricted when larger numbers of people become more aware that a solution which can allow them to keep using their old hardware just as they have been without subscription fees exists.

I suspect that there is a good chance that this option will not be available much longer. The supply of these licenses could easily be cut off completely before October 14. Even if the supply of licenses remains stable, when the servers which provide Windows 10 updates to normal home and business users start to get shut down the solution that I advocate may not continue to work as efficiently or at all. Allowing this work-a-round to exist runs counter to Microsoft's long-term plans to switch to a subscription-based model. My feeling is that this technique could easily be a fleeting opportunity, and it is important to take advantage of it before it goes away

70 posted on 07/18/2025 3:52:28 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: TexasGator

Sorry, https://www.gamers-outlet.net/en/buy-windows-10-iot-enterprise-ltsc-cd-key-microsoft-global


71 posted on 07/18/2025 3:57:40 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bkmk


72 posted on 07/18/2025 4:08:51 PM PDT by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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To: fireman15
What about Tiny 11, a slimmed-down Windows 11 24H2 version?

-PJ

73 posted on 07/18/2025 4:12:16 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: fireman15
The 2013 desktop is currently powered off. It is 100% SATA interfaced disks, so very easy to place into an external enclosure to backup. The data is more valuable than the hardware at this point. It is a BIOS only boot motherboard. The BIOS is so old that it wouldn't boot when connected to my new wide screen monitor, but still works on the 4k multisync. It really is time for that motherboard to be replaced.
74 posted on 07/18/2025 4:21:28 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: fireman15

“This will take you at least a couple of hours and maybe more...”

I’ve got your couple of hours right here mate! What do you have for 5 minutes?🤔


75 posted on 07/18/2025 4:24:46 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Brian Griffin

I will have to learn to use Apple products. I put up with Windows because you can see what you need to do, even though it may take the PC five minutes to start up Edge.

Edge starts instantaneously even in the computer I am using right now an eight-year-old HP Ryzen 2500u based laptop with 32GB of RAM, a 2TB SSD and a 2TB NVME. Your problem is not normal. It likely is from all of your RAM being used up and the computer using a swap file on a legacy hard drive. But there could be other easy to remedy problems as well.

This computer was lagging a bit before I “upgraded” to Windows 10 IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC. It is possible that 21H2 which it is based on is slightly more efficient than 22H2 which is the latest version of Windows 10, but I think that it is likely that system corruption was to blame.

I would start with using your search bar or icon next to the Windows 10 icon on your taskbar and search for Command Prompt. Choose to run it as an administrator. Enter the following command into the command line: sfc /scannow
It will likely find a few errors and correct them. When this is done run another command: DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
After this command has finished reboot your computer.

Then you should open up your task manager and seeing what is using your RAM and Processing power.


76 posted on 07/18/2025 4:33:02 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: dayglored; Still Thinking

I should have mentioned that the first person who mentioned Windows 10 IoT Enterprise 2021 LTSC to me on Free Republic was “Still Thinking” in a thread that I posted in February.

Windows 10 has a year (8 months) left to live – but are users prepared to upgrade to Windows 11?

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4299866/posts?page=1

I am kind of the Chicken Little of Free Republic when it comes to Windows 10s End of Life event.


77 posted on 07/18/2025 4:44:38 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: GingisK
I run a wide assortment of irreplaceable software tools on my Windows box.

I also have hardware and software tools and packages that will not run on Windows 11. This is one of the primary reasons that I have become the Windows 10 End of Life Chicken Little on Free Republic.

78 posted on 07/18/2025 4:48:15 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: Poser

Thanks. I’ll give it a shot. I CAN open those jpg files in an app that came with my system (Edge? MS? Windows? I have no idea), but I prefer to edit in Picture Manager that’s part of MS Office Suite 2003.

Thank you again!


79 posted on 07/18/2025 4:56:59 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: Myrddin

I think that replacing your motherboard, processor, GPU, memory and hard drives would be an excellent option for your computer. Or you could just buy another one and use the old one for some other purpose.

You do have the option of using the Windows 10 Consumer Extended Security Updates (ESU) program. This costs $30 and lasts for a year. For businesses I believe that this can be extended for up to two years.

programhttps://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-consumer-extended-security-updates-esu-program-33e17de9-36b3-43bb-874d-6c53d2e4bf42


80 posted on 07/18/2025 5:01:06 PM PDT by fireman15
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