Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Americans ... Don't want to fund mass death in Ukraine. This is an unwinnable war"

X ^ | July 18 | gc22gc

[RandFan]

@gc22gc

Rep. MTG: The American people didn’t ask for this war. Or this debt. They don’t want to fund mass death in Ukraine. This is an unwinnable war. Over 1.5M killed or wounded. An entire generation of men wiped out. Americans want peace not murder.

[thefactor]

Holy shit dude, you need to relax. Lol. I linked the polling data in my post 41.

I cannot stand people like you. You have no evidence so you just scream, "YOU'RE ONE OF THEM!" when someone holds an opinion you don't like. Just STFU. I will ignore you from now on.

[PIF]

MTG is a loser

[ANKE69]

Thanks for your post.
I personally don’t know one single person who supports this insanity.
I’m around people all day, every day. Of course I don’t ask anyone directly what their personal view is, but the subject does comes up very often.
I’ll let you know if I should encounter a Zelensky supporter. 😁
Hope all is well with you and your bride. 🙃

[airborne]

It’s a war of attrition, where soldiers and civilians on both sides die, while the military industrial complex gets rich.

Same as it ever was.

Same as it ever was.

Rinse and repeat.

[Alberta's Child]

I think you completely misunderstand what drove the political aftermath of both military campaigns (1990 and 2003). The human toll was greatly overshadowed by the economic dysfunction here at home while all of this was going on.

[Jan_Sobieski]

Educate yourself, Yanukovich ran on a pro-EU platform, and when elected, changed his mind after a meeting with Putin.

Educate yourself on constitutional republics. You disagree with an elected official, you vote them out legally. You do not foment an unconstitutional murderous revolution. That’s the difference between Zeepers and Freepers.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "I'll let you know if I should encounter a Zelensky supporter."

Even among "Zelensky supporters," one finds some European "supporters" backing away.

For the avid Z-supporters, I cite ONLY Z-media:

France, Italy reportedly opt out of US-NATO arms deal for Ukraine Kyiv Independent, 16 July 2025

France Opts Out of NATO Plan to Fund US Weapons for Ukraine, Reports Say Kyiv Post, 16 July 2025

Hungary rules out any funding for US weapons to Ukraine News Ukraine, 14 July 2025

Italy opts out of US-NATO weapons plan for Ukraine Euro Integration Ukraine Європейська правда), 16 July 2025

Czechia opts out of US-led NATO arms deal for Ukraine News Ukraine, 15 July 2025

[Openurmind]

“Ruffini began blogging in 2001, and has been a front-page contributor for RedState and Townhall.com. In the 2004 election, Ruffini served as webmaster for the Bush-Cheney campaign. Following the 2008 election, Ruffini co-authored the Rebuild the Party platform for Republican renewal.[7]

From 2005 to 2007, Ruffini served as eCampaign Director at the Republican National Committee (RNC).[8]

In 2007, Ruffini founded Engage, LLC, a political media firm.[9]

In 2008, he co-founded The Next Right, a forum for the youth conservative movement.[8] Reihan Salam wrote in Atlantic in 2008 that Ruffini “looks poised to become one of the most influential Republican political strategists of his generation.”[10] He has authored a monthly “Digital Democracy” column for Townhall magazine, written for National Review, and appeared as a political analyst on Fox News Channel and C-SPAN’s Washington Journal. >>Ruffini’s analysis of emerging political trends has also appeared in the Washington Post, the New York Times, CNN, PBS MediaShift, and Newsweek.”<<

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Ruffini

Absolute fake bias globalist warmonger poll...

[ANKE69]

No wonder!
Things look quite different when a war of this coming magnitude is so close to home.

[tlozo]

Educate yourself on constitutional republics. You disagree with an elected official, you vote them out legally

Ukraine’s parliament voted to remove President Viktor Yanukovich from office, hours after he abandoned his Kyiv

The impeachment, which was backed by 328 of the 447 deputies, argues that Yanukovich abused his powers.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/2/22/ukraine-president-yanukovich-impeached

[tlozo]

Even among "Zelensky supporters," one finds some European "supporters" backing away

France, Italy reportedly opt out of US-NATO arms deal for Ukraine Kyiv Independent, 16 July 2025

Your being dishonest, no surprise, by not stating the reason.

France and Italy are not "backing away" from supporting Ukraine, but are going to buy their weapons for Ukraine from European producers, in order to support European industries.

The French government will not join the initiative because of its emphasis on piecing together Europe's defense industrial base,

https://www.newsweek.com/france-italy-donald-trump-nato-weapons-ukraine-2100129

[ANKE69]

Don’t bother arguing with this one.
He is arguing on a preschool level and has never taken the time to get a proper education.

[Alberta's Child]

France and Italy are not "backing away" from supporting Ukraine, but are going to buy their weapons for Ukraine from European producers, in order to support European industries.

Which makes the U.S. "support" for Ukraine extraneous and irrelevant. See Post #44.

[tlozo]

U.S. "support" for Ukraine

What US support? You and Greene seem to not understand Trumps deal. European countries are going to BUY US weapons and ship them to Ukraine.

[Socon-Econ]

Whether it’s winnable doesn’t matter. What matters is whether Americans will be helped by our involvement in a leftist supported war where neither nation is our enemy. We are not the world’s policeman.

[Alberta's Child]

European countries are going to BUY US weapons and ship them to Ukraine.

Go back to Post #44. I'll be shocked if this actually happens in consequential numbers.

Most of these countries have steadfastly refused -- for years -- to meet their "5% of GDP" NATO commitment. What makes you think they're suddenly going to start doing it now by purchasing U.S. military hardware? LOL.

[Racketeer]

What has NATO offered regarding membership? The USA needs to get as far away from NATO as possible.

[tlozo]

Most of these countries have steadfastly refused -- for years -- to meet their "5% of GDP" NATO commitment.

Nato commitments were supposed to be 2% which I believe all NATO coutries reached this year.

Trump got all of NATO (except Spain) to agree to 5% in 2035

In 2025, all Allies are expected to meet or exceed the pre-summit target of investing at least 2% of GDP in defense, compared to only three Allies in 2014.

At the 2025 NATO Summit in The Hague, Allies made a commitment to investing 5% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) annually on core defence requirements and defence- and security-related spending by 2035.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_49198.htm

[Allegra]

I agree with everything she said here.

[Openurmind]

“Thales-Raytheon Systems Company LLC (ThalesRaytheonSystems or TRS) is an aerospace and defence company co-headquartered in Massy, France and Fullerton, California, United States.[1] It is operated as a 50:50 joint venture between Raytheon Technologies (formerly Raytheon Company) and Thales Group.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThalesRaytheonSystems

Raytheon:

Ownership

As of December 2014, according to filed reports, the top ten institutional shareholders of Raytheon are Wellington Management Company, Vanguard Group, State Street Corporation, Barrow, Hanley, Mewhinney & Strauss, BlackRock Institutional Trust Company, BlackRock Advisors, Bank of America, Bank of New York Mellon, Deutsche Bank and Macquarie Group.[47]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raytheon_Company

Different country same Military Industrial Complex and profiteers.