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1 posted on 07/17/2025 1:10:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Societies rise with alcohol consumption and decline under prohibition. History proves it out. Drink responsibly.


2 posted on 07/17/2025 1:15:00 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The Weather Bureau announced they will shut down the entire Sharknado early warning system and staff)
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They found that communities producing their own alcoholic drinks, like fruit wines or cereal beers, often showed higher levels of political organization.

Er ah, er ah. Makes perfect sense to me.

3 posted on 07/17/2025 1:15:39 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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A gram is better than a damn.


4 posted on 07/17/2025 1:15:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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How Alcohol Influenced the Rise of Ancient Societies

'cept Ireland...God gave us the gift curse of alcohol so we wouldn't rule the world...
5 posted on 07/17/2025 1:17:19 PM PDT by stylin19a ("Death Smiles At Everyone - Marines Smile Back" - 250 years of smiling - 11/10/2025)
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There were beer halls all over ancient Egyptian.


6 posted on 07/17/2025 1:17:27 PM PDT by central_va (The I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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10 posted on 07/17/2025 1:23:13 PM PDT by Allegra (Thank you for your attention to this matter. )
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Some of my best times, sitting around a bar with friends, getting fairly sloshed and having conversations that were only meant for bars and wild laughter. Way before the 3 drink limit. Damn, 3 drinks and we were only getting started.


11 posted on 07/17/2025 1:23:37 PM PDT by Omnivore-Dan (have to )
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Great. Let’s go have a drink! Laz is buying.


14 posted on 07/17/2025 1:29:18 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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In some societies, drinking parties often ended in arguments.

The Irish have tried for years to get Drunken Bar Fight included as an Olympic sport. To no success, alas.

17 posted on 07/17/2025 1:34:59 PM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”)
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Alcohol, especially beer, allowed communities to scale their size and increase population densities. Societies without alcohol often failed to grow because the increased population density contaminated the water supply, increasing sickness from polluted water. By drinking beer instead, organisms in the drinking water were killed, which allowed more people to live in a smaller space. Instead of a frontiersman life where they had to do all things themselves, population growth allowed specialization and shops that specialized (bakeries, blacksmiths, food vendors, etc.) in specific markets resulted in scale economies and rising incomes.


19 posted on 07/17/2025 1:39:29 PM PDT by econjack
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“Researchers analyzed data from 186 traditional societies worldwide. They found that communities producing their own alcoholic drinks, like fruit wines or cereal beers, often s
showed higher levels of political organization. “

The study likely does not distinguish between cause and effect; ignoring the possibility of other attributes of higher levels of political organization, of which alcohol may have been a social attribute but not the cause of higher political organization.

They think they know which came first, the chicken or the egg, but they don’t know.


20 posted on 07/17/2025 1:41:47 PM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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I have mentioned this for years when mentioning that people should look at the alcohol based Western civilization which refused Cannabis as an intoxicant, versus the areas that embraced it as an intoxicant.

Alcohol had a positive effect on society and community.


21 posted on 07/17/2025 1:44:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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Zicke Zacke Zicke Zacke Hoi Hoi Hoi!


25 posted on 07/17/2025 2:31:43 PM PDT by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back)
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Cheers! :)


26 posted on 07/17/2025 2:42:16 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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“In Heaven there is no beer
That’s why we drink it here
And when we’re gone from here
All our friends will be drinking all that beer...”

~ Frankie Yankovic, Accordion KING!


27 posted on 07/17/2025 2:48:28 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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So drinking societies were the forerunner of the modern corrupt lying political party? Makes sense to me.


30 posted on 07/17/2025 4:40:02 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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Including art, music and theater oh and domestic violence:-)


31 posted on 07/17/2025 4:45:50 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than saving to WORK of !US:-)p)
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None of us would be here today if it weren’t for alcohol. I don’t mean that we’re all the product of drunken hookups or anything. But without the sanitizing effect of alcohol a town dies once its population grows large enough to contaminate its drinking water. There is also the fact that beer in particular was a key source of calories for many medieval peasants.


32 posted on 07/17/2025 4:57:35 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"-Voltaire)
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