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High phosphate diet impacts nervous system, induces hypertension
Medical Xpress / UT Southwestern Medical Center / Circulation ^ | June 30, 2025 | Han-Kyul Kim et al

Posted on 07/12/2025 9:54:35 PM PDT by ConservativeMind

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To: jmacusa

Not home made ones.


21 posted on 07/13/2025 4:50:28 AM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: ConservativeMind

Absolute solution: stop eating food!


22 posted on 07/13/2025 4:57:22 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: ConservativeMind

Increasingly, I believe: “If God didn’t make it and I didn’t bake it, I’m not eating it.”


23 posted on 07/13/2025 5:04:15 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: Flaming Conservative

we need some in our diet.

the issue is, like salt, having too much.

700mg is the RDA


24 posted on 07/13/2025 5:07:16 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Suits me. I don’t eat any of those things. Occasionally fresh seafood.


25 posted on 07/13/2025 5:36:16 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Nothing enrages the delusional and the evil like TRUTH.)
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To: Bullish

Get a food dehydrator and make your own: it’ll be cleaner and cheaper.


26 posted on 07/13/2025 5:53:20 AM PDT by jonatron (My pronoun is "garbage.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thanks for the phosphate foods chart.


27 posted on 07/13/2025 6:06:27 AM PDT by onthelookout777
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Bacon....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


28 posted on 07/13/2025 6:07:22 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: jonrick46

Something as American as hot dogs?


Joey Chestnut should have died five times by now.


29 posted on 07/13/2025 6:08:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: irishjuggler

Try the New Military Diet. Captain Morgan and Captain Crunch. After a few days you’ll be addicted and can’t stop saluting the makers of these fine products.


30 posted on 07/13/2025 6:15:03 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I tried pushing the envelope but it remained stationery.)
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To: wardaddy

Wow, good for him! Looking out for dad!


31 posted on 07/13/2025 6:18:23 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: ConservativeMind

I wouldn’t recommend eating nothing but processed meat, but...

Study of mice. Mice are primarily vegetarians. Not totally, but much more so than humans.

What levels? How much “processed meat” would be required to get to a harmful level?

What IS “processed meat”? Humans have smoked and preserved meats for thousands of years without issue.

Blood pressure: Is higher bad? Seriously. Yes, in a general population, high blood pressure is associated with bad things. That is to be expected. If you have high blood pressure caused by heavy plaque deposits in your blood vessels, that is EXTREMELY hazardous.

But there are many reasons blood pressure might be high. So first: What IS “high blood pressure”? The heart people in the USA - based on a very badly designed trial - say anything over 120/80 for any age. Europe uses a higher rating. IIRC, most family physicians agree with Europe.

And does “high blood pressure” vary by age? Again, it depends on WHY the blood pressure is high. As we age, our arteries - like our eyes - become less flexible. That will result in higher blood pressure. Doesn’t matter. Indeed, when old enough, higher blood pressure IS PROTECTIVE!

So while it is absolutely true that some of the people with higher blood pressure have a very serious issue, it does not follow that ALL PEOPLE with blood pressure over 120/80 have any issue AT ALL.

Blood pressure is a SYMPTOM of something else - possibly a larger, more muscular heart due to exercise, or due to stiffening in the arteries, or due to obstructions in the arteries, or due to having used too much Motrin over one’s life, etc. High blood pressure should be EXAMINED, but it is not by itself harmful - unless at very high levels (such as systolic levels of 160+).

I don’t advocate anyone eating huge amounts of food with lots of additives. As a rule, eat things that do no contain lists of ingredients! But just as an ice cream cone a month isn’t dangerous, neither is a bit of pepperoni on a pizza - once a month.

NOTE: I am not a doctor. But I read a lot of studies, and the studies almost never say what the press claims, and MOST nutrition studies I read are seriously flawed BY DESIGN. The blood pressure trial that insists everyone needs to be at 120/80 or lower was probably DESIGNED to get that result. And in it, they couldn’t get the average (mean) blood pressure of older adults down to 120/80 even when giving them FOUR MEDICATIONS!

This mindless approach to medicine and health needs to stop! Since I switched to Keto years ago - a high fat diet - my Total Cholesterol has stayed steady or gone down slightly. My HDL is up 50%. My LDL had gone down. Triglycerides down by 35%. My Triglyceride/HDL ratio is now 1.0.

But because my LDL is still over 100, the doctor recommended I switch to a low fat diet, or at least eliminate animal fat. I told her no way in hell. She said she was required by her employer to say that, but she understood why I wasn’t going to follow it.

Something is seriously wrong with our health care system!


32 posted on 07/13/2025 6:37:58 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers
But because my LDL is still over 100, the doctor recommended I switch to a low fat diet, or at least eliminate animal fat. I told her no way in hell.

Good for you. Choresterol, is essential in the building and rebuilding of cell structure that takes place every second in our bodies. Without cholesterol we will die. I am anti-statin. A good diet and healthy lifestyle does more good than statins ever will.

33 posted on 07/13/2025 7:33:45 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I tried pushing the envelope but it remained stationery.)
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To: ConservativeMind

From the web...

“Inorganic phosphorus as phosphorus additives are commonly found in foods like processed meats and baked goods as well as beverages like soda, iced teas, bottled coffee drinks, and flavored waters. Examples to look for in the ingredients list are phosphoric acid, dicalcium phosphate, sodium phosphate, and trisodium phosphate. If one is following a low phosphorus diet, it is important to be aware of these “hidden” well-absorbed dietary sources of phosphorus by reading food labels carefully.”


34 posted on 07/13/2025 7:48:01 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mr Rogers
Something is seriously wrong with our health care system!

Yes. It's run by government bureaucrats, insurance company bean counters, and pharmaceutical company salesmen. All of these have some vested interest in "managing your condition" rather than helping you be as healthy as possible.

35 posted on 07/13/2025 7:54:52 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Blue Highway

I believe canned tuna doesn’t have added phosphates.


36 posted on 07/13/2025 8:13:34 AM PDT by TTFX
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To: ConservativeMind

Thinking that all types of phosphates posses the same level of danger is a mistake.

The body processes phosphoric acid, the phosphate in coca cola, quickly and easily and without harm. The phosphates in burgers are more dangerous.


37 posted on 07/13/2025 8:19:14 AM PDT by TTFX
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Wonderful chart! I will have to look for phosphates in the ingredients. Unfortunately, it may eliminate some of my favorite/addictive foods.


38 posted on 07/13/2025 9:13:53 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: ConservativeMind

Bump


39 posted on 07/13/2025 10:32:22 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT back in 2006)
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To: Freee-dame

I’ve heard the rumors. Maybe 1% have a slight reaction to it after consuming large amounts. I don’t use it very often, once a month maybe.


40 posted on 07/13/2025 10:53:45 AM PDT by Pocketdoor
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