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This Ultra-Thin Drumhead Moves Sound With Almost No Loss – And May Change Tech Forever
Scitech Daily ^ | July 09, 2025 | University of Copenhagen

Posted on 07/09/2025 6:24:04 AM PDT by Red Badger

Enlargement of the silicon nitride membrane. The colors represent the measured motion of the membrane in the out of plane direction. Red means that part of the membrane moves upward, and blue means that part moves downwards. Credit: Albert Schliesser and Xiang Xi When a drummer hits a drum, the surface vibrates and creates sound—a signal we recognize as music. But once those vibrations stop, the signal disappears. Now imagine a drumhead that’s incredibly thin, only about 10 millimeters wide, and covered in tiny triangular holes. Scientists have created exactly that, and it does something extraordinary.

Researchers at the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen, working with teams from the University of Konstanz and ETH Zurich, discovered that vibrations can travel through this miniature membrane with barely any energy loss. In fact, the vibrations move more cleanly than signals in even the most advanced electronic circuits. This breakthrough, recently published in Nature, opens up new possibilities for how we transmit sound and information, especially in the race toward powerful new quantum technologies.

Phonons – Sound Signals or Vibrations That Spread Through a Solid Material Instead of using electricity, this research focuses on phonons—tiny vibrations that travel through solid materials. You can think of them as sound waves moving through a crystal or a drumhead. When atoms vibrate, they nudge neighboring atoms, creating a wave of motion that carries information.

If that wave weakens along the way or gets scrambled by heat or disorder, the message becomes more challenging—or impossible—to recover.

System Reliability is Crucial

What makes this new membrane so exciting is how little signal is lost. Researchers found that vibrations could move through it with extraordinary efficiency. In fact, the signal loss was almost nonexistent.

Even when the vibrations had to curve around holes in the membrane or change direction, only about one phonon out of a million went missing. That’s far better than what we see in electronic circuits, where signals typically weaken a hundred thousand times faster.

This level of precision could make the membrane a powerful new tool for transferring information in everything from quantum computers to high-precision sensors.

Basic Research with Perspectives

Researchers at the Niels Bohr Institute, Assistant Professor Xiang Xi and Professor Albert Schliesser, explain that the result should not be thought of in a specific, future application – but there are still rich possibilities. Currently, there is a global effort to build a quantum computer, which is dependent on super-precise transfer of signals between its different parts.

Another field within quantum research deals with sensors that, for example, can measure the smallest biological fluctuations in our own body – here too, signal transfer is crucial.

But Xiang Xi and Albert Schliesser are currently most interested in exploring the possibilities even further.

“Right now, we want to experiment with the method to see what we can do with it. For example, we want to build more complex structures and see how we can get phonons to move around them, or build structures where we get phonons to collide like cars at an intersection. This will give us a better understanding of what is ultimately possible and what new applications there are,” says Albert Schliesser. As they say: “Basic research is about producing new knowledge.”

Reference:

“A soft-clamped topological waveguide for phonons”

by Xiang Xi, Ilia Chernobrovkin, Jan Košata, Mads B. Kristensen, Eric Langman, Anders S. Sørensen, Oded Zilberberg and Albert Schliesser, 4 June 2025, Nature.

DOI: 10.1038/s41586-025-09092-x


TOPICS: Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Music/Entertainment; Science
KEYWORDS: drumhead; phonons; waveguide
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1 posted on 07/09/2025 6:24:04 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

> a signal we recognize as music.

Maybe. That depends on the drummer.


2 posted on 07/09/2025 6:25:41 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (I didn't leave the Democratic Party. It LEFT me, and keeps going further left. )
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

arm the phonon torpedos


3 posted on 07/09/2025 6:30:49 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

Queue up the Drummer jokes!................

How do you get a drummer off of your porch?
Pay him 10 bucks for the pizza.


4 posted on 07/09/2025 6:31:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

“But once those vibrations stop, the signal disappears. Now imagine a drumhead that’s incredibly thin, only about 10 millimeters wide”

I suspect present drum skins, and original drum skins from Africa are quite a bit less than 10mm thick.

(you know, you do not have to hire Leftists for technical publications...there is no law to that effect)


5 posted on 07/09/2025 6:39:39 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Red Badger
Now imagine a drumhead that’s incredibly thin, only about 10 millimeters wide, and covered in tiny triangular holes.

Huh? That’s a drumhead a centimeter thick. That would be the thickest drumhead ever made. It would be thicker than the chunkiest cell phone.

I suspect this is another case of a know-nothing “journalist” writing copy they don’t even proofread, about a subject they don’t understand.

6 posted on 07/09/2025 6:41:34 AM PDT by noiseman (I The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman; BobL

I suspect they meant micrometers. I tried looking at the original article in “Nature”, but it’s a paywall site.

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7 posted on 07/09/2025 6:51:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

I was thinking the same, micrometers, but maybe nanometers, thought that’s quite thin!


8 posted on 07/09/2025 6:53:11 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Red Badger
This undermines a fundamental part of drumming.

Electric drum sets save marriages because they have a volume knob. LOL

9 posted on 07/09/2025 7:00:44 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Red Badger

Interesting. I wonder if there is a sound threshold above which is necessary for the phenomenon to occur. But it makes intuitive sense...a thinner membrane with less mass will conduct movement much farther along its path..(I think as a non physicist)
Good things:better sensors
Bad things: better sensors to spy on you.


10 posted on 07/09/2025 7:01:29 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find. )
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To: Red Badger
I suspect they meant micrometers. I tried looking at the original article in “Nature”, but it’s a paywall site.

I also wonder how often Autocorrect is involved. If you’re writing on any Apple device, it’s always lying in wait, just waiting to strike. I fight with it constantly, and frequently see it actually change correctly-typed words to entirely different words after the fact, based upon what it (mistakenly) believes is the context of the sentence. It’s really poorly designed.

11 posted on 07/09/2025 7:12:01 AM PDT by noiseman (I The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman
"Now imagine a drumhead that’s incredibly thin, only about 10 millimeters wide, and covered in tiny triangular holes"
12 posted on 07/09/2025 7:13:05 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Getready

Check this out:

https://thedaily.case.edu/cat-like-hearing-device-trillions-times-smaller-human-eardrum/


13 posted on 07/09/2025 7:16:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: plain talk
”Now imagine a drumhead that’s incredibly thin, only about 10 millimeters wide, and covered in tiny triangular holes"

I saw that, too. Typical lack of attention to detail that is everywhere these days. Most college graduates can’t even spell, much less write coherent passages.

Or maybe it’s referring to the world’s smallest drum, made by whoever made the world’s smallest violin.

14 posted on 07/09/2025 7:20:52 AM PDT by noiseman (I The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman

Yeah — it is describing research not a finished product.

I understood it fine but I am used to being abused by these editors and their poorly written articles. :-) AI should be an improvement in many cases.


15 posted on 07/09/2025 7:27:40 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk
AI should be an improvement in many cases.

If AI achieves nothing else but ending the epidemic of using an apostrophe before every “s”, especially in plural forms of words, it will have achieved a great victory for literacy.

16 posted on 07/09/2025 7:44:41 AM PDT by noiseman (I The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman

I suspect the problem is with a reader. There is a difference between ‘wide’ and ‘thick’.


17 posted on 07/09/2025 7:46:04 AM PDT by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: Red Badger

How do you know when a drummer is knocking on your door?

The knocking gets louder and faster!


18 posted on 07/09/2025 8:34:42 AM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: noiseman

Drummer here. I believe they meant mil. Drumhead thickness is measured in mil, which is one-thousandth of an inch. For example, the popular Remo Ambassador drumhead is 10 mil, or .01 inches thick.


19 posted on 07/09/2025 8:51:40 AM PDT by ncdrumr (Oooh, SarahCUda!)
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To: noiseman

I don ned kno editr to reveew my ritin.


20 posted on 07/09/2025 9:16:32 AM PDT by pas
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