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Good Laugh For Today: New York State Says It Will Build A New Nuclear Power Plant
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 24 Jun, 2025 | Francis Menton

Posted on 06/25/2025 5:32:44 AM PDT by MtnClimber

In case you missed it, here is New York Governor Kathy Hochul’s breathless announcement from yesterday: “Governor Hochul Directs New York Power Authority to Develop a Zero-Emission Advanced Nuclear Energy Technology Power Plant.” And here is Hochul’s picture of herself making the announcement:

Does something here seem like it doesn’t quite fit? Yes, it was just four years ago, in April 2021, that New York completed the forced closure of the two perfectly functional Indian Point nuclear plants, with combined generating capacity of about 2 GW, for no other reason than relentless opposition from environmentalists and NIMBYs. And yet now the Governor is saying that the plan is to start over and build a new nuclear plant at some unspecified place.

Before getting to a few of the problems, let’s start with some of the excited language from the Governor’s press release:

Governor Kathy Hochul today directed the New York Power Authority (NYPA) to develop and construct a zero-emission advanced nuclear power plant in Upstate New York to support a reliable and affordable electric grid, while providing the necessary zero-emission electricity to achieve a clean energy economy. . . . “As New York State electrifies its economy, deactivates aging fossil fuel power generation and continues to attract large manufacturers that create good-paying jobs, we must embrace an energy policy of abundance that centers on energy independence and supply chain security to ensure New York controls its energy future,” Governor Hochul said. . . .

NYPA, in coordination with the Department of Public Service (DPS), will seek to develop at least one new nuclear energy facility with a combined capacity of no less than one gigawatt of electricity, either alone or in partnership with private entities, to support the state's electric grid and the people and businesses that rely on it. NYPA will immediately begin evaluation of technologies, business models, and locations for this first nuclear power plant and will secure the key partnerships needed for the project. This process will include site and technology feasibility assessments as well as consideration of financing options, in coordination with the forthcoming studies included in the master plan. . . .

Now who wouldn’t want “a reliable and affordable electric grid” that provides “the necessary zero-emission electricity to achieve a clean energy economy”? Not meaning to be the grinch here, but let me lay out a few of the problems that I have with the approach to energy policy for New York as described by our Governor:

- Are we really talking about just one new nuclear plant with just one GW of generation capacity? That is barely a drop in the bucket compared to the immediate need, and doesn’t even meaningfully address the problem of keeping the grid operating as we pursue a statutorily-mandated transition to mostly wind and solar generation. The State’s Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act of 2019 (CLCPA) demands closure of at least 20 GW of dispatchable power plants running on natural gas; and the State’s Independent System Operator, NYISO, has stated that the State needs at least 20 GW of what they call “dispatchable emissions-free resources” (DEFR) to replace the natural gas generation. Nuclear is the only plausible DEFR. So why we are going to build only one GW of new nuclear capacity? Wouldn’t you think the Governor would at least mention the rather large disparity between the identified need and her plan?

- The Governor’s announcement doesn’t say anything about the timeline, beyond making it clear that this project hasn’t even gotten to the most preliminary of preliminary steps. (“NYPA will immediately begin evaluation of technologies, business models, and locations for this first nuclear power plant. . . .”). We don’t even know the “technology” or the “business model” yet, let alone the location. The most recent nuclear plant to begin operation in the United States — Vogtle Units 3 and 4 in Georgia — took 15 years from start of construction in 2009 until commencement of operation in 2024. Fifteen years from now is 2040, by which year the CLCPA mandates that New York produce all its electricity from “zero-emissions” sources. But before Governor Hochul’s unicorn power plant can begin construction, we must have not just selection of technology, business model, and location, but also such things as preparation and completion of an EIS, permitting, design, awarding of a contract, financing, and, don’t let me forget, defeat of a few dozen litigations attempting to block the project. We will be very, very lucky if this plant is ready to operate by 2045. 2050 would be more likely — if it ever operates at all.

- Shouldn’t there be at least some mention by the Gov that the CLCPA plan for a “zero emissions” electricity grid by 2040 has become completely unachievable — indeed, ridiculous? 20+ GW of reliable natural gas generation will go away by the mid-2030s, to be replaced by — what? One 1 GW nuclear plant, to maybe become available some time post-2045? That’s a complete joke. How about Hochul’s other plan for 6 GW/24 GWh of “grid-scale” battery storage? Per calculations at this post from March 2024, New York would need at least 720 hours of average usage, which is 12,240 GWh of energy storage, to reliably back up a grid predominantly powered by wind and sun; the 24 GWh in our Gov’s plan would be about 0.2% of that requirement. Another complete joke. Is there a third proposal? Not that I can find.

So what is Governor Hochul even thinking when she puts out a proposal for a single new nuclear power plant, describing it as supporting a future “reliable and affordable electric grid,” when she knows that her proposal represents at best 5% of what is needed and at least 5 to 10 years too late? What this proposal clearly is not is a serious plan to move toward a “zero-emissions” grid by the statutory mandate of 2040. Being charitable toward our Governor, perhaps the idea here is to lay down a marker, so that when her 1 GW nuclear plant proposal gets killed by some combination of environmental activism and bureaucratic stumbling, she will be able to say that she tried to put forth a solution but got blocked. The alternative hypothesis — that Governor Hochul actually thinks her 1 GW nuclear plant proposal is a relevant solution to the problem at hand — would imply that the Gov operates at essentially a kindergarten level of incompetence.

I’ll let you pick which of these two alternatives is more likely. Meanwhile, let this be your good laugh for today.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: greenenergy

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1 posted on 06/25/2025 5:32:44 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber
"the Gov operates at essentially a kindergarten level of incompetence"

That is mighty generous Mr. Menton.

2 posted on 06/25/2025 5:33:00 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: StAntKnee; texas booster

Manhattan Contrarian ping


3 posted on 06/25/2025 5:34:40 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

She is claiming credit for the electricity required to run the AI facilities planned for New York


4 posted on 06/25/2025 5:35:33 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: MtnClimber

There’s no way that we can allow a marxist, muslim (small letters fully intended) state go nuclear. Fuel up the B2s.


5 posted on 06/25/2025 5:36:42 AM PDT by Da Coyote (H)
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To: MtnClimber

I’m sure they will do. There are only 50,000 regulations that they will have to meet to build it.


6 posted on 06/25/2025 5:36:56 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He was so fat that it took a year for his memory foam mattress to forget him. )
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To: Da Coyote

Do you think Hochul announced this for solidarity with Iran and the mullahs?


7 posted on 06/25/2025 5:40:01 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Very generous indeed.

She can’t even get her administration out of the way of progress.

Unless there is a TV camera on the other side.


8 posted on 06/25/2025 5:41:50 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: MtnClimber

This is surprising to hear, because liberals are opposed to nuclear power. Yet a good liberal governor is pushing this. What would Greta Thunberg think of this revolting action?


9 posted on 06/25/2025 5:42:14 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MtnClimber
I recall reading a story years ago that New York State okayed the construction of 2 Nuclear Power Plants.
One was completed and the other was near completion, and then the State of New York ordered them shutdown and then permanently disabled.
The State got credit for the created jobs and the Power Companies got stuck with the bill.
10 posted on 06/25/2025 5:42:40 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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.........that Governor Hochul actually thinks her 1 GW nuclear plant proposal is a relevant
solution would imply that the Gov operates at a kindergarten level of incompetence...........


Man, shes a riot.


11 posted on 06/25/2025 5:42:43 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray...."Our Father, who art in heaven......" )
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To: MtnClimber

That’s a democrat for ya. Tasked with changing a flat tire, the spare will only have half the air pressure required, and when she changes it, she’ll only put one lug nut on. AND she’ll try to convince everyone that she did something great.


12 posted on 06/25/2025 5:43:32 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: MtnClimber
Hochul is one greasy piece of Dramacrat cr@p - "We'll only abuse this law once to go after our political enemy, Donald Trump".

In a just world, she'd be in front of Ceaușescu's Wall.

13 posted on 06/25/2025 5:47:50 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: MtnClimber

I vote kindergarten comprehension

Though a bright advanced group after being educated might make better decisions


14 posted on 06/25/2025 5:50:44 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: MtnClimber
Here we see a clerk organizing all the NY regulations that must followed when building a new nuclear plant.

Good luck with that.

15 posted on 06/25/2025 5:57:09 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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I KNEW IT! I absolutely knew it. When I started poking into AI a year or so ago and saw its potential and learned about how power hungry it was, I absolutely knew the "prevailing view" on nuclear was going to change. As soon as "big tech" decided they need nuclear plants to power their data centers, "suddenly" nuclear is not going to be seen as evil anymore. When the guys that control the social-media messaging decide they need nuclear, watch how the messaging evolves and changes.

Last year I kept telling myself "you need to invest in nuclear...you NEED to invest in nuclear". Just missed the big April correction (where had I had the money I'd have jumped in), but I popped in with a little bit in May.
16 posted on 06/25/2025 6:00:34 AM PDT by mmichaels1970 ( )
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To: MtnClimber

All B.S. and show. The permit process alone will take ten years.


17 posted on 06/25/2025 6:00:50 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT back in 2006)
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To: MtnClimber

Leftists in general are innumerate and do not understand even the basics of serious large scale power generation, transmission, and distribution. The Green faction of the ruling clique in Germany damn near took them back, if not to the Stone Age, but maybe the 1800s.

Ours are just as bad and will do the same.


18 posted on 06/25/2025 6:01:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MtnClimber

Does anyone remember how NY forced the dismantling of a nuclear power plant in the NYC area a few decades ago? The cowardly owners acquiesced to this even though they had won in court, because the power consumers were to bear the cost.


19 posted on 06/25/2025 6:01:31 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
This is surprising to hear, because liberals are opposed to nuclear power.

They won't be. In a couple short years they won't be. Big tech is working on reprogramming their minds as we speak.
20 posted on 06/25/2025 6:01:56 AM PDT by mmichaels1970 ( )
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