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Israel is accused of the gravest war crimes - how governments respond could haunt them for years to come
BBC ^ | June 9 | Jeremy Bowen

Posted on 06/09/2025 8:31:31 AM PDT by RandFan

Even wars have rules. They don't stop soldiers killing each other but they're intended to make sure that civilians caught up in the fighting are treated humanely and protected from as much danger as possible. The rules apply equally to all sides.

If one side has suffered a brutal surprise attack that killed hundreds of civilians, as Israel did on 7 October 2023, it does not get an exemption from the law. The protection of civilians is a legal requirement in a battle plan.

That, at least, is the theory behind the Geneva Conventions. The latest version, the fourth, was formulated and adopted after World War Two to stop such slaughter and cruelty to civilians from ever happening again.

At the headquarters of the International Committee of the Red Cross in Geneva (ICRC) the words "Even Wars Have Rules" are emblazoned in huge letters on a glass rotunda.

The reminder is timely because the rules are being broken.

Getting information from Gaza is difficult. It is a lethal warzone. At least 181 journalists and media workers have been killed since the war started, almost all Palestinians in Gaza, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists. Israel won't let international news teams into Gaza.

Since the best way to check controversial and difficult stories is first hand, that means the fog of war, always hard to penetrate, is as thick as I have ever experienced in a lifetime of war reporting.

It is clear that Israel wants it to be that way. A few days into the war I was part of a convoy of journalists escorted by the army into the border communities that Hamas had attacked, while rescue workers were recovering the bodies of Israelis from smoking ruins of their homes, and Israeli paratroopers...

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To: RandFan
How does the BBC feel about the UK-USA fire bombing of German citizens in World War II?

How does the BBC feel about the UK support for USA fire bombing and USA nuclear bombing of Japanese citizens in World War II?

41 posted on 06/09/2025 11:14:36 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Thanks, we know you are a miserable Antisemite, you proved it again. Stuff you smart-ass comeback up your ass, incel.


42 posted on 06/09/2025 11:26:47 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Tell It Right
Today's Israelis are descendants of Europeans, not Canaanites.

Two thirds of the population of Israel are Jews who were thrown out of Arab countries during and after the War of Independence. Further the Arab countries stole the land of these Jews. This amounts to five times the size of Israel.

The Arabs owe the Jewish nation that amount in sovereign real estate.

43 posted on 06/09/2025 11:32:35 AM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: DesertRhino
Bullcrap.... Journalists were embedded WITH the Hamas terrorists DURING the attack.

Not only that but some were seen carrying weapons for the Muslim invasion. These journalists are combatants who were not wearing proper uniform.

44 posted on 06/09/2025 11:35:44 AM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: Nervous Tick

That’s not my point.

Of course the bombing of Hiroshima was not a crime, it was an act of war.

My original point, which no one is reading, is that things that happen in war are not crimes BECAUSE war and crime are different species of things. Another way to say it is that vaporizing babies, normally a crime, was not BECAUSE it was war.

The invention of “terrorism” and “terrorists” to describe acts of war has led to great confusion and to ineffective countermeasures.

It’s why KSM is still alive, having regular meals and his Koran in a special wrapper, instead of dead by hanging.


45 posted on 06/09/2025 11:42:45 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: metmom
But they won't because their hatred of the Jews is so deeply ingrained as to be almost genetic

No.

They won't because they are at war with Israel, they are not defeated, and wars don't end because one side claims victory, they end when the other side admits defeat or is exterminated.

46 posted on 06/09/2025 11:44:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Jim Noble


47 posted on 06/09/2025 11:44:38 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Hope, as a righteous product of properly aligned Faith, IS in fact a strategy.)
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To: Lurker

Preach it!


48 posted on 06/09/2025 12:05:55 PM PDT by metmom ( He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.”)
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To: Jim Noble

Japan was warned. They chose to push it.

Even after the bombs, the vote to surrender was a tie with the deciding vote cast by the emperor.

And we were facing this kind of barbarism.......

Unit 731
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731


49 posted on 06/09/2025 12:13:05 PM PDT by metmom ( He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.”)
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To: Jim Noble

Have you seen the clips of videos that hamas recorded of themselves perpetrating Oct 7?

I have.

If not, you should and then get back to us on how much of victims the Gazans/hamas are.

The Gazans themselves housed many of the Israeli hostages that hamas captured, tortured, and raped. And don’t forget the baby that that hamas put in an oven and burned alive.

Gazans could put an end to hamas if they wanted to. They clearly don’t.


50 posted on 06/09/2025 12:18:31 PM PDT by metmom ( He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.”)
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To: Jim Noble

They weren’t at war with Israel on OCT 7.

Israel has made it clear.

Release the hostages and the hostilities cease. They won’t.

They can take the consequences.


51 posted on 06/09/2025 12:23:51 PM PDT by metmom ( He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.”)
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To: Lurker

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52 posted on 06/09/2025 12:31:04 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (10-10-10-10)
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To: T.B. Yoits

“ You’re paying for it and should be held responsible for it.”

Taxes are collected involuntarily at the point of a government gun under threat of imprisonment or death if I resist.

Gazans are voluntarily giving aid, comfort, and shelter to a bunch of 7th century savages.

Once again, bit of a difference there Skippy.

L


53 posted on 06/09/2025 1:23:48 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker
TaxesSupport for terrorists are collected involuntarily at the point of a government terrorist organization gun under threat of imprisonment or death if I resist.

Again, kudos on your intel that each and every one of them is involved.

Gazans are voluntarily giving aid, comfort, and shelter to a bunch of 7th century savages. Once again, bit of a difference there Skippy.

Sure, three-year-olds are giving aid, comfort, and shelter which is why they deserve to have bombs rained on their heads.

Collective Punishment is a war crime as recognized by this Free Republic of the United States.

54 posted on 06/09/2025 4:31:24 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: cowboyusa
Thanks, we know you are a miserable Antisemite, you proved it again. Stuff you smart-ass comeback up your ass, incel.

Who's "we"? and who's the anti-semite?

You're more than welcome to go live in a country that doesn't identify Collective Punishment as a war crime.

As for the incel comment, your mother knows better.

55 posted on 06/09/2025 4:33:40 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

I had you peged on the Football thread. That you parents raised a Son of a BITCH
Tell me I’m not an American to my face. I will beat your ass bloody, you VERY SMALL “man


56 posted on 06/09/2025 4:42:28 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: T.B. Yoits

“Again, kudos on your intel that each and every one of them is involved.”

They voted overwhelmingly for Hamas. This is the “reap the whirlwind” part.

“Sure, three-year-olds are giving aid, comfort, and shelter which is why they deserve to have bombs rained on their heads.”

We incinerated 3 year olds in Dresden, Berlin, Nagasaki, and Hiroshima. I’ll bet you would have felt sorry for them, too.

Lesson: Don’t start wars and your kids won’t get hurt.

Now go hump someone else’s leg.

L


57 posted on 06/09/2025 4:44:20 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker
They voted overwhelmingly for Hamas.

As if they had a choice.

We incinerated 3 year olds in Dresden, Berlin, Nagasaki, and Hiroshima.

So that makes it right. Got it. Should be done more often. Today in History's Mysteries, we learn that the Geneva Convention was signed after World War II to prevent such atrocities.

Again, Collective Punishment is a war crime as recognized by this Free Republic of these United States.

58 posted on 06/09/2025 7:41:07 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: cowboyusa

https://www.aa.org/


59 posted on 06/09/2025 7:42:24 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

“As if they had a choice.”

Actually they did. Furthermore at least 80% of Gazans surveyed AFTER 10/7 approved of the slaughter.

“So that makes it right. Got it. Should be done more often.”

Indeed it should be.

Remind me again. When exactly did Hamas sign on to the Geneva Conventions? Oh, that’s right. They didn’t. So that means Israel doesn’t need to observe them either.

Fair is fair, after all.

“Collective Punishment is a war crime as recognized by this Free Republic of these United States.”

It’s not punishment. It’s war.

L


60 posted on 06/09/2025 7:46:27 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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