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Posted on 06/01/2025 5:21:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz
Using AI to help write? The short answer is, I don't.
There is a person, Tim Boucher, who has used AI to write at least 97 books. That's impressive, but I would wager that if I got into reading one of them, it would be an intolerable slog that I wouldn't be able to get through.
That is because of my observations when getting AI to experimentally generate some fiction. Everything it writes is very hackneyed, very trite material. Everything always ends up positive, everyone is happy, there is little conflict or conflict resolution, and every character has the exact same voice.
I like my fiction to have current colloquial expressions, AI doesn't do that. I like to have little plot twists here and there, AI doesn't seem capable. When possible, I like to have my chapters end with a mike-drop sentence. AI hasn't been able to generate one of those.
I'm over 75% finished with my political-thriller / science-fiction novel, so I'm starting to think about leveraging AI to produce a book cover or promotional images and video shorts. Even there, the creativity seems constrained. You can readily identify images created by AI, they all have a certain subjective feel to them.
However, there is a place for automation. It isn't AI, exactly, but automated grammar and punctuation error-checking is a stellar function. It's caught a lot of my minor errors. Even then, sometimes, I'll take artistic license to have characters speak with a more 'real-life' tone, or to describe a circumstance with more punch.
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You just tripped over the very thing that I had a discussion on ChatGPT just this morning. The limitations of AI for writing things like books or stories is very limited because it is designed to think in plurality. So when I challenged ChatGPT to go more in depth, it requires that you’re very specific and even then the coded in guard rails will sanitize your intent.
In some ways, I think this is a benefit for authors. AI being incapable right now of detecting nuance in a storyline and expanding that nuance as part of a plot, should separate the AI writers from the true authors.
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I’m 75% done with my novel, “Dimensions of Essence”
Accurate observation.
Me too. Google - and waaaay too many other sites! - generate AI replies that vague generalities and no more than a middle school or high school level of technical detail.
Sure, if I’m looking up the pipe wall thickness of an 8 inch extra-heavy pipe, or the density of chromium at 400 degrees, I can probably believe that number. But anything more complex than that?
Might as well believe Wikipedia about any current events . Or the impact of climate change on tariffs on Kansas.
Thank you for the ping.
The first and second generation writers are not so great. But the third generation combined with good prompting yield great results.
That’s impressive, but I would wager that if I got into reading one of them, it would be an intolerable slog that I wouldn’t be able to get through
Depends on how much ai he uses and the types of ai- there are ai that “humanize ai output” that is pretty good, though they do tend to include some terminology that repeats a bit, but that is what editing is for- there is ai that can even write in the style of past authors, and is much more apt to sound similar, though i havent seen any work done bythose yet.
[[ I like to have little plot twists here and there, AI doesn’t seem capable. When possible, I like to have my chapters end with a mike-drop sentence. AI hasn’t been able to generate one of those]]
Th3 key 5o ai is knwoing how to prompt it to include all that and more. They are capable of inc,uding plot twists if prompted to do so. The writer doesnt need to go with the suggestions, bu5 can work off the suggestion to crewte soemthing similar.
I find it helpful when stuck at a scene to get better ideas to move the scene along- ai can give several suggestions for things like “work a plot twist onto the following pqragraph” for instance.
Paste a paragraph in5o the following to see if it meets your modern verbiage requirement or not
https://notegpt.io/ai-humanizer
There are other “humanizers” that word things differently too- some do sound pretty stilted though.
I don5 mind buying “ai assisted” bookw, but do read excerpts first though to see if they sound at l3ast half way human sounding. If so, i buy the book and am usually glad. Sometimes not though- excerpts can only reveal just so much.
Agreed. Its progressed a long way already.
[[with good prompting yield great results]]
That is the key.
The ai “humanizer” i listed link to can’t utilize prompts, but you can keep hitting the rewrite button till it outputs something that’s ok. Other ai you can input good prompts and get decent results
Slightly on- yet also off-topic…
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4320060/posts
Gen Z discovers hack to reveal who’s using ChatGPT — and this common punctuation mark is the telltale sign of AI writing
NY Post ^ | April 14, 2025 | Brooke Steinberg
Posted on 5/30/2025, 9:41:25 PM by DoodleBob
The em dash (—)
Please add me, Mr. Mataz. I appreciate your AI comments.
Most of what I’ve seen from AI is corporate “happy talk.”
I’m on something like the ninth draft of my autobiography. A lot has happened since finishing that first draft in mid November. Some stuff added, a lot taken out. It’s definitely better though.
Please add my name to your ping list.
See,, that just sucks. I use the em-dash ALL THE TIME.
AI could never have topped the writers at MAD Magazine. Guys like Frank Jacobs, Arnie Kogen, Tom Koch, Dave Berg, Stan Hart, Dick DeBartolo, Al Jaffee, Phil Hahn and many others who were members of “the usual gang of idiots”.
It was a dark and stormy night . . .
I’ll give AI at least 10 years before it will be able to write anything that can’t be detected.
hmmm…are you LazAImataz?
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