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You just tripped over the very thing that I had a discussion on ChatGPT just this morning. The limitations of AI for writing things like books or stories is very limited because it is designed to think in plurality. So when I challenged ChatGPT to go more in depth, it requires that you’re very specific and even then the coded in guard rails will sanitize your intent.
In some ways, I think this is a benefit for authors. AI being incapable right now of detecting nuance in a storyline and expanding that nuance as part of a plot, should separate the AI writers from the true authors.
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The first and second generation writers are not so great. But the third generation combined with good prompting yield great results.
That’s impressive, but I would wager that if I got into reading one of them, it would be an intolerable slog that I wouldn’t be able to get through
Depends on how much ai he uses and the types of ai- there are ai that “humanize ai output” that is pretty good, though they do tend to include some terminology that repeats a bit, but that is what editing is for- there is ai that can even write in the style of past authors, and is much more apt to sound similar, though i havent seen any work done bythose yet.
[[ I like to have little plot twists here and there, AI doesn’t seem capable. When possible, I like to have my chapters end with a mike-drop sentence. AI hasn’t been able to generate one of those]]
Th3 key 5o ai is knwoing how to prompt it to include all that and more. They are capable of inc,uding plot twists if prompted to do so. The writer doesnt need to go with the suggestions, bu5 can work off the suggestion to crewte soemthing similar.
I find it helpful when stuck at a scene to get better ideas to move the scene along- ai can give several suggestions for things like “work a plot twist onto the following pqragraph” for instance.
Paste a paragraph in5o the following to see if it meets your modern verbiage requirement or not
https://notegpt.io/ai-humanizer
There are other “humanizers” that word things differently too- some do sound pretty stilted though.
I don5 mind buying “ai assisted” bookw, but do read excerpts first though to see if they sound at l3ast half way human sounding. If so, i buy the book and am usually glad. Sometimes not though- excerpts can only reveal just so much.
Most of what I’ve seen from AI is corporate “happy talk.”
AI could never have topped the writers at MAD Magazine. Guys like Frank Jacobs, Arnie Kogen, Tom Koch, Dave Berg, Stan Hart, Dick DeBartolo, Al Jaffee, Phil Hahn and many others who were members of “the usual gang of idiots”.
It was a dark and stormy night . . .
I’ll give AI at least 10 years before it will be able to write anything that can’t be detected.
Well said and great information, Laz!
It (they actually) don't think about the smell of a rose or the feel of a sharp knife cutting one's finger while cooking. They don't think of the success of hooking the largest bass in a fishing contest, or getting a blue ribbon for best pig.
They just take a pile of numbers and resort them. The output is the snake eating the tail. The answers given by A.I. are 'evaluated' and fed back into the 'system'. The answers become what we like them to be instead of what they really are.
Still, it's just numbers.
AI is a good sounding board for ideas, or source for very quick background research, or character background ideas, but I would never use it to actually write. It could however help you through a block if you just keep hating one section and can’t see what is wrong.
Agree. As a support like grammar,etc., valuable.
To be the de jour source of content, bad.
AI response to your question: “Your perspective on AI-generated writing is insightful. While AI can process immense amounts of information and generate coherent text, it often struggles with the subtleties that make writing compelling—distinct voices, nuanced conflict, genuine surprise. Its tendency toward formulaic, optimistic outcomes reflects its limitations in understanding human complexity rather than a lack of computational ability.
Your emphasis on colloquial expressions and impactful conclusions suggests a keen awareness of narrative rhythm and audience engagement—qualities that AI hasn’t quite mastered. Plot twists, emotional depth, and thematic layering require intuition and lived experience, which AI can imitate but not truly understand.
That said, your inclination to explore AI for visuals is interesting. AI-generated images often carry a signature “artificial” aesthetic, but they can serve as a foundation for human refinement. AI excels at producing varied iterations quickly, which can be a useful starting point in the creative process.
Automation has its place, as you rightly note. Grammar and punctuation checks are indispensable tools that support fluency without encroaching on artistic intent. Ultimately, AI remains an instrument, useful for refining but not replacing creativity. Your novel—a blend of political intrigue and science fiction—is proof of the uniquely human ability to weave complex narratives that resonate beyond mere structure and coherence.
What drives your vision for this story? What themes are you exploring?”
A few weeks ago, I experimented with Grok on X.com. I told Grok I wanted an 8,000 word murder mystery story. I gave the time period, the investigator (a historical, legendary character in the public domain—no, not Sherlock Holmes, LOL), the place, the victim, the accused innocent person, three suspects: one of whom is the killer, and the clue that led the investigator to the perp. I added in some more detail, but didn’t tell Grok which suspect did the deed.
I didn’t give Grok every detail I had in mind, and I fully intended to re-write the story in my own words. I thought it’d be neat to have words to start with instead of facing the dreaded blank page.
Grok did a fairly good job of it. It came up with a great idea how to use the clue to eventually determine who the killer was. That was something I hadn’t quite figured out yet. I didn’t care for the personalities Grok gave some of the characters. And when I copied and pasted the story into the Open Office word processor, the story only came in at 2,000 words. Apparently, Grok can’t count! 🤪
But it was a fun experiment. I haven’t written the story yet as I’m still researching the time period. And Grok has been very helpful with research.
BOOKS? What are those? Do they still print those?
There are people out there that still turn pages?
Do they make buggy whips in their spare time?
One of the most frustrating things as a high school teacher is the use of Twitter/social media abbreviations in students’ formal writing - don’t like it in informal writing either.
Saw - “U” for you, IIRC, IMO, and more, constantly.
A few months ago I read about a writing professor, college level, who quit in disgust. Her classes were for IT students only. Too many of her students were using AI to write what they handed in to her. She learned how to tell it was AI written or was cleaned up with AI.
Most of her students were Asian/Chinese/ Indian, so their English skills not so good. They loved AI because they could direct the AI to alter their writing to idiomatic British style, American style etc.... Getting rid of all the Indianisms such “do the needful”. Chineseisms too.
Youtube is infested with AI untrue stories. One channel likes to AI concoct tall tales about Pam Bondi’s courtroom triumphs. Racking up great views numbers, so making more you tube cash. Cash that will go a long way in India, Bulgaria and so on.
Check out the AI Pam Bondi in action, with 447,000 views>>>>>
Arrogant Judge Edward Chen Insults Pam Bondi in Court—Minutes Later, He’s Dragged Out in Handcuffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og8vu46hqh4
I’m with you, Laz!
I hate A! generated writing, images, and music.
All of it fits your analysis.