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Classical Composer Ludwig van Beethoven Was Full of Heavy Metal
ZME Science via MSN ^ | 25 May 2025 | Tibu Pulu

Posted on 05/25/2025 11:52:37 AM PDT by Publius

Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827) was a prodigious composer, credited with 722 works that pushed the boundaries of music and ushered in the Romantic era. Yet, his personal life was marred by several health challenges. Beethoven continued working despite deafness (and what a curse that must have felt like for a composer of his caliber), gastrointestinal troubles, and jaundice.

A year ago, scientists sequenced Beethoven’s genome from his hair. They found genetic risk factors for liver disease but nothing conclusive about his other ailments. Now, new research suggests lead toxicity might explain the composer’s suffering.

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TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment; Science
KEYWORDS: beethoven; classicalmusic; culture; decomposing; history; louievanbeetfarmer; ludwig; rolloverbeethoven
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No, it's not about Beethoven's link to Ozzy Osbourne. When he was almost totally deaf, and near the end of his life, he produced the Late String Quartets, which mystified many of his contemporaries. Ignaz Schuppanzig, first violinist of the quartet that premiered all of Beethoven's quartets, wrote in Beethoven's conversation book that the quartet was having difficulty understanding these latest quartets.

Beethoven pulled himself up to his full foot-foot-six and said, "Oh, I didn't write these quartets for you! I wrote them for a later generation!" Then he calmed down and said, "Don't worry about it. They'll figure it out eventually."

He was right. Music had to go through the whole Wagner experience and World War I before the Late Quartets made sense. The 33-1/3 RPM long playing record helped.

Quartet in E-flat, Op. 127

Quartet in B-flat, Op. 130

Quartet in C# minor, Op. 131 (The wildest and craziest of his quartets.)

Quartet in A minor, Op. 132

Quartet in F, Op. 135

Among the greatest artifacts of Western Civilization.

1 posted on 05/25/2025 11:52:37 AM PDT by Publius
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To: Publius

I remember recently listening to one of Beethoven’s later piano sonatas. It sounded just like Scott Joplin rag. The guy was a time traveler.


2 posted on 05/25/2025 11:53:37 AM PDT by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left?)
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To: Publius

Ludwig van Beethoven was a Heavy Metal composer? Who knew!


3 posted on 05/25/2025 11:55:08 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: tired&retired

Cue Bill and Ted


4 posted on 05/25/2025 11:58:03 AM PDT by Hyman Roth
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To: Publius

Well, duh!
I got into classical music because of what I learned when I first got into heavy metal around the age of nine. I was fortunate to have friends through my school years that realized we all got into something special and awesome. All of the ones I still keep in touch with have the same feeling too.
Metal
My favorite metalhead classical works are Tchaikovsky, Rachmaninov and Stravinsky (and others I can’t recall at the moment). I haven’t listened to my favorite metalhead composers in quite some time, come to think of it; I’ll have to revisit and remember some of my favorites.

Thanks for this cool post.


5 posted on 05/25/2025 12:08:19 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: Publius

bookmark.


6 posted on 05/25/2025 12:13:08 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: lefty-lie-spy

Metal: making classical cool again?

According to the goog, the harmonic minor scale is the only one in common with both styles of music.

Used to listen to metal when doing math homework.


7 posted on 05/25/2025 12:19:45 PM PDT by waterhill (Nobody cares, work harder!)
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To: Publius

I am 76 years old and this is the first time I ever saw his name as Ludwig VAN Beethoven...I had always seen or heard Ludwig VON Beethoven....


8 posted on 05/25/2025 12:49:39 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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It is “Van”. That is Flemish and place (geographic)- derived.. “Von” is German and is used as an indication of nobility.


9 posted on 05/25/2025 12:58:00 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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Beethoven was German.....


10 posted on 05/25/2025 12:59:33 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: JBW1949

Von Halen??

Haha!!


11 posted on 05/25/2025 1:01:02 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fwdude

You’re talking about the final movement of the Op. 111 Sonata in C Minor. Beethoven invented jazz 100 years before it became current.


12 posted on 05/25/2025 1:01:23 PM PDT by Publius
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To: fishtank

LOL...I’ve always heard VAN Halen...Never VON Halen....


13 posted on 05/25/2025 1:06:43 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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"Von" meant you were a member of the nobility in the German and Austrian world. "Van" meant you were a member of the nobility in the Dutch world.

The two worlds didn't translate. Beethoven tried to litigate the matter of the custody of his nephew in the Austrian court of the nobility, but when the judges discovered that Van and Von weren't the same thing, the case was moved to the court of the commoners.

He was always Van because his family entered the German-speaking world from the Netherlands.

14 posted on 05/25/2025 1:06:43 PM PDT by Publius
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To: JBW1949
Beethoven was born in Bonn, a city in the Rhineland, and his first language was probably French.
15 posted on 05/25/2025 1:07:48 PM PDT by Publius
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Well, I’ve never been much into classical music myself (I’m from Tennessee...More into country music)...It seems I just always heard his name pronounced “von”...


16 posted on 05/25/2025 1:10:56 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Publius

Well, I’ve never been much into classical music myself (I’m from Tennessee...More into country music)...It seems I just always heard his name pronounced “von”...


17 posted on 05/25/2025 1:10:56 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: left that other site; Borges

Classical music ping.


18 posted on 05/25/2025 1:20:09 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Publius

Thanks. (((LOVE Beethoven!!!)))


19 posted on 05/25/2025 1:34:43 PM PDT by left that other site (><br>THis has been a struggle for me for many years. Thank you for expressing it so well.)
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I am 76 years old and this is the first time I ever saw his name as Ludwig VAN Beethoven...I had always seen or heard Ludwig VON Beethoven....

I'm only 72 but I'm with you.   It was always Ludwig Von Beethoven but after I did a couple of searches I found out why they're pushing the geographic particle, "Van".   We always knew Baron von Richthofen was of nobility which the nobiliary particle, "von", signified.   But the liberal leftists of the world cannot have that, because Van Beethoven means, “from the beetroot yard."

20 posted on 05/25/2025 1:51:40 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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