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Lights out at airport where doomed jet was supposed to land before crash that killed famous drummer, music agent
NY Post ^ | May 23, 2025

Posted on 05/23/2025 5:59:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The runway lights were out, a weather alert system wasn’t working and there was heavy fog at a San Diego airport when a pilot who had flown across the country made the decision to proceed with landing but came up short and crashed into a neighborhood, killing all six aboard the aircraft, investigators said Friday.

Investigator Dan Baker of the National Transportation Safety Board said officials will work over the next year to determine what caused the Cessna 550 Citation to crash just before 4 a.m. local time Thursday. The jet was carrying a music executive and five others.

No one in the neighborhood of U.S. Navy housing died, but eight people were treated for smoke inhalation...

The pilot acknowledged the weather conditions for landing at the small airport were not ideal and debated diverting to a different airport while discussing the visibility with an air traffic controller at a regional Federal Aviation Administration control tower, according to audio of the conversation posted by LiveATC.net.

The Federal Aviation Administration had posted an official notice for pilots that the lights were out of service, but it’s not known whether the pilot had checked it.

He didn’t discuss the lights being out with air traffic control, but was aware that the airport’s weather alert system was inoperable. Ultimately, the pilot is heard saying that he’ll stick with the plan to land at Montgomery-Gibbs Executive Airport.

“Doesn’t sound great but we’ll give it a go,” he told the air traffic controller.

The plane crashed about 2 miles from the airport. Baker said a power surge knocked out the weather system at the airport but the pilot was aware of the fog and an air traffic controller gave him weather information from Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, about 4 miles north.

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TOPICS: Local News; Music/Entertainment; Travel; Weird Stuff
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1 posted on 05/23/2025 5:59:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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“Doesn’t sound great but we’ll give it a go,”

Oh my.


2 posted on 05/23/2025 6:00:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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I guess the drummer wasn’t THAT famous if they didn’t bother to say his/her name in the first couple of paragraphs.


3 posted on 05/23/2025 6:02:41 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant - Never Fearful)
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To: BenLurkin

The pilot was incredibly stupid.


4 posted on 05/23/2025 6:03:19 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: 21twelve

Agreed!


5 posted on 05/23/2025 6:03:36 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: 21twelve

The name was not familiar to me.


6 posted on 05/23/2025 6:03:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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Well, his car was at this airport so....


7 posted on 05/23/2025 6:04:04 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant - Never Fearful)
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To: ConservativeMind
Turns out the music agent (David Shapiro) was also the pilot. I know two guys that own businesses and fly their own planes. I've never flown with them, but they are very safety conscious on their boats.

Although it would seem to me that the business aspects of things (being late to a meeting, not landing where your car is, etc.) MIGHT play a factor in the decision making. Whereas if you just have a pilot that is only a pilot, he doesn't care if you are late.

8 posted on 05/23/2025 6:11:56 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant - Never Fearful)
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Seems more like he didn’t reset his altimeter for local barometric pressure. At and above 18,000 feet, altimeter are universally set to 29.92. Then when decending for the approach to land, the altimeter is set to the actual local pressure. High to low, look out below.....Not setting for the local pressure can find you are hundreds of feet off. An instrument approach with a 600’ Minimum descent requirement could find you plowing dirt in a fireball.


9 posted on 05/23/2025 6:23:09 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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“former drummer for metal band The Devil Wears Prada.”

The “famous drummer”.


10 posted on 05/23/2025 6:26:05 PM PDT by plain talk
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This is pilot error all the way. A perfect storm of "Get thereitis".

The plane wasn't qualified to land at Montgomery Field under those conditions. The airport was shut down for the night, and the marine layer was dense with visibility below minimums.

Bad decisions compounded by missing altitude minimums on approach and hitting a hilltop powerline.

11 posted on 05/23/2025 6:30:22 PM PDT by pfflier
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Would not like to hear my pilot say that!


12 posted on 05/23/2025 6:38:25 PM PDT by Az Joe (uired to.)
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To: Az Joe

What about “Hold muh beer and watch this”?


13 posted on 05/23/2025 6:46:19 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I worked at the circus as The Human Cannonball, until they fired me.)
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To: BenLurkin

Wow - I experienced similar circumstances at probably that same airport 50 years ago. I was with a young Navy Lieutenant that had recently gotten his pilot’s license. We took off from San Diego (where we were both stationed). In the evening coming back, the field was fogged in, so being a younger pilot, he opted to land near Big Bear. I don’t recall how we got back to the ship. Glad he made the right decision.


14 posted on 05/23/2025 6:50:10 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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The pilot FAFO’D, he flew the instrument approach too low and hit powerlines. It is extremely lucky that no one on the ground was killed.


15 posted on 05/23/2025 6:52:50 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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16 posted on 05/23/2025 6:54:35 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BenLurkin

As a current Instrument rated pilot myself, he made a bad choice...


17 posted on 05/23/2025 7:06:24 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: ConservativeMind

Lots of holes in the “Swiss cheese” he flew through. The airport was also below weather minimums for his instrument type but he elected to try anyway. From what I’ve seen he was a “hot shot” pilot or at least thought he was. As the saying goes “there are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old bold pilots.


18 posted on 05/23/2025 7:08:23 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: BenLurkin
“Doesn’t sound great but we’ll give it a go,” he told the air traffic controller.

What could possibly go wrong?

19 posted on 05/23/2025 7:14:26 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: BenLurkin

Give it a go pilots are not very good.


20 posted on 05/23/2025 7:32:53 PM PDT by highpockets
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