Posted on 05/18/2025 6:10:55 AM PDT by MtnClimber
To some extent.
If James Madison were to time travel to the present, I believe that he would be more aghast that women can now vote than the descendants of his slaves. I think he would identify that as our fundamental problem.
You really need to read the highly suppressed and now out of print 1982 Senate report on the RKBA. I have a paper copy from the US Government printing office.
Here is an on line copy.
https://guncite.com/journals/senrpt/senrpt.html
“The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner.”
19th century cases
16. * Wilson v. State, 33 Ark. 557, at 560, 34 Am. Rep. 52, at 54 (1878).
“If cowardly and dishonorable men sometimes shoot unarmed men with army pistols or guns, the evil must be prevented by the (p.17)penitentiary and gallows, and not by a general deprivation of constitutional privilege.”
17. * Jennings v. State, 5 Tex. Crim. App. 298, at 300-01 (1878).
“We believe that portion of the act which provides that, in case of conviction, the defendant shall forfeit to the county the weapon or weapons so found on or about his person is not within the scope of legislative authority. * * * One of his most sacred rights is that of having arms for his own defence and that of the State. This right is one of the surest safeguards of liberty and self-preservation.”
18. * Andrews v. State, 50 Tenn. 165, 8 Am. Rep. 8, at 17 (1871).
“The passage from Story (Joseph Story: Comments on the Constitution) shows clearly that this right was intended, as we have maintained in this opinion, and was guaranteed to and to be exercised and enjoyed by the citizen as such, and not by him as a soldier, or in defense solely of his political rights.”
19. * Nunn v. State, 1 Ga. (1 Kel.) 243, at 251 (1846).
“’The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.’ The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to be attained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitally necessary to the security of a free State.”
And the SCOTUS case that led to the Civil War..
Are Negros citizens...Dred Scott
“It would give to persons of the negro race, who are recognized as citizens in any one state of the Union, the right to enter every other state, whenever they pleased.... and it would give them full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might meet; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to KEEP AND CARRY ARMS wherever they went.”
Paragraph 77 in the link below.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0060_0393_ZO.html
There’s a difference between the useful idiot leftist and the leftist who wants to run the government.
The useful idiot believes the utopian vision of no guns= no violence and willingly disarms after they help the the leftist who wants to run the government get in power.
Most recent historical example - Cuba.
Do I trust Mother Government?
If you think I do, you haven’t been paying attention to my posts and opinions. ;)
Nope! Not so far in my lifetime, but President Trump gives me hope for a brighter future. MAGA!
As I have noted before, the men who wrote the 2nd Amendment did not just return from deer hunting.
Senators Patty, Lisa, Susan, Maizie....
But, we are armed. Now what? We're all lazy or apathetic, or old and fat.
Probably so.
But if things keep going the way I think they are, we’re going to need those old, fat, and lazy people to shake themselves out of their stupor and prepare to become Patriots. I’d not be surprised if someone on the Left did Something Really Dumb (like ‘86 47’) and pissed off Conservatives decided they’d had enough and we had CWII. And this one will make the first one look like a garden party.
Also the fundamental problem is Europe.
It is more insidious than that. Even if we are not lazy or apathetic or old and fat, we can be deprived of open carry with any determination of an emergency or threat to national security.
Officials elected by those in other states can make that determination. Look at the recent attempt to imprison the leading candidate for president over a contrived misdemeanor for an example of what is possible.
We indeed live in "evil times", and I am an optimist by nature.
As long as you set me up for a static position, I’m in.
Open carry doesn’t matter. Its what THEY don’t see that matters.
“Do you trust your government?”
Ask an Indian!
There was a reason only property owners could vote.
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