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An unresponsive jet that crashed after flying over Washington had dozens of unresolved maintenance issues, NTSB report says
CNN ^ | 5/13/2025 | Alexandra Skores

Posted on 05/13/2025 7:05:47 PM PDT by logi_cal869

A business jet that flew over Washington with no response from the pilot – prompting a chase by F-16s which caused a sonic boom – likely lost pressure, causing everyone onboard to pass out, according to the final report from the National Transportation Safety Board. The pilot and three passengers died in the crash.

On June 4, 2023, the Cessna Citation was flying from Elizabethton, in eastern Tennessee, to Long Island, New York when the pilot stopped responding to air traffic control.

The jet rose to 34,000 feet and flew over Long Island and then turned back to the southwest, flying over Washington and into Virginia.

When the US Air Force F-16s caught up with the plane, they could see someone motionless and slumped over in the cockpit and no movement in the cabin, CNN previously reported.

Minutes later, the Citation crashed into the forest near Montebello, Virginia, leaving a crater in the ground.

The NTSB found based on the lack of response to air traffic controllers, tracking data and the fighter jet pilots’ observations, it is “likely that the pilot of the accident airplane became incapacitated during the climb to cruise altitude.” The plane was then directed by the autopilot for another 300 miles until it was no longer able to maintain control.

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KEYWORDS: 202306; 20230604; aviation; cessna; citation; hypoxia
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Update to the article posted here June 2023

AOPA video warns of hypoxia dangers after Citation V crash

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4159519/posts

1 posted on 05/13/2025 7:05:47 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

tracking data and the fighter jet pilots’ observations, it is “likely that the pilot of the accident airplane became incapacitated during the climb to cruise altitude.”...


Well, who wouldn’t?

Do they say why the jet lost pressure?


2 posted on 05/13/2025 7:11:28 PM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: Jane Long

Shades of Payne Stewart.

L


3 posted on 05/13/2025 7:14:00 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: All

Do these planes have oxygen masks?


4 posted on 05/13/2025 7:15:22 PM PDT by BipolarBob (AA told me to quit hanging around drunks. So I quit going to AA, cuz that's where they were.)
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To: Jane Long

“Do they say why the jet lost pressure?”


Headline??? /s

The NTSB report is preliminary, but answers most of the early speculation. I can’t source a link to the preliminary report itself and won’t be expending any more time on it.

Final report isn’t expected for another year.


5 posted on 05/13/2025 7:16:39 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: Jane Long

From the source:

“Five things on the plane were overdue for maintenance inspections at the time of the crash, including a co-pilot oxygen mask, the NTSB found. An additional 26 problems were noted on the aircraft a month earlier, “including several related to the pressurization and environmental control system,” but the owner chose not to address them, the board reported. Two days before the crash, maintenance workers also saw the pilot’s oxygen mask was missing and oxygen levels were so low that passenger masks would not have worked.”


6 posted on 05/13/2025 7:17:46 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: Lurker

Exactly who/what I thought about.


7 posted on 05/13/2025 7:20:00 PM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: logi_cal869

I’m wondering who owned this aircraft.

Overdue maintenance.

Missing oxygen masks.

Low O2 levels.

One pilot.

For this type of aircraft, truly unreal.


8 posted on 05/13/2025 7:21:30 PM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: BipolarBob

(Do these planes have oxygen masks?)

Decompression takes place in less than 10 seconds depending on the altitude.


9 posted on 05/13/2025 7:26:59 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One w!as a cylindrical object)
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To: logi_cal869

Payne Stewart Syndrome.


10 posted on 05/13/2025 7:33:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
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To: Jane Long

“Unreal”

I know. It seems like a lot is missing from this story.


11 posted on 05/13/2025 7:40:41 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Jane Long; Lurker

Oddly, I’d forgotten about Stewart’s flight. Notable:

“In time, an investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) would corroborate that hypothesis. It concluded that the probable cause of the accident was the incapacitation of the crew following a loss of cabin pressure. What prompted that was never established. The same NTSB report documented several instances of maintenance work related to cabin pressure being carried out on the plane in the months leading up to the accident but the NTSB was unable to determine whether or not they stemmed from a common or persistent problem.”

The Final Flight: The untold story of the crash that killed Payne Stewart

https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/the-final-flight-the-story-of-the-crash-that-killed-payne-stewart/


12 posted on 05/13/2025 7:46:27 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: logi_cal869

In our Citation, one flight deck crew is always wearing a mask. We alternate every ten minutes.


13 posted on 05/13/2025 7:54:16 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: logi_cal869

Another way in which flying is different from driving. Can’t stop by the side of the sky if your plane develops an engine problem or stalls. Can’t breathe on a plane? Can’t exactly open a window.


14 posted on 05/13/2025 7:54:44 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: logi_cal869

FTA ...

... The 69-year-old pilot, later identified as Jeff Hefner, was a retired commercial airline captain and had nearly 35,000 hours experience flying planes. He had some medical conditions, but the NTSB found no evidence of a high incapacitation risk or improper use of medications .

The jet was owned by Encore Motors of Melbourne, Florida. The owner’s daughter and 2-year-old granddaughter were on the aircraft when it crashed....

The owner of this aircraft...privately owned, by this car dealer .... has to feel horrific for not properly maintaining his aircraft. Why put your precious loved ones in such a situation?


15 posted on 05/13/2025 7:56:30 PM PDT by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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To: SkyDancer

Interesting. Is that due to regulations?

Curious: Did the industry ever develop anything from this technology?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28424-breath-sensor-quickly-warns-when-pilots-are-low-on-oxygen/


16 posted on 05/13/2025 7:58:45 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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To: logi_cal869

We’ve read of incidents with that happening so our company made the rule that one person on the flight deck is wearing a mask.


17 posted on 05/13/2025 8:02:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: logi_cal869
The breath sensor was for rapid drops for military pilots. Civilian pilots have been using finger oximeters for years.

Garmin makes a watch that has a built in oximeter.



18 posted on 05/13/2025 8:07:45 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: logi_cal869

With modern technology, you would think they could make the automatic pilot detect the lack of oxygen and descend to 5000 feet or so.


19 posted on 05/13/2025 8:11:47 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

Right?

And transmit an automated message to ATC.


20 posted on 05/13/2025 8:14:20 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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