Scientists Finally Confirm “Crazy” Vitamin B1 Theory From 1958

Scitech Daily ^ | May 06, 2025 | Jules Bernstein, University of California - Riverside

[Red Badger]

A team of chemists has achieved the unprecedented: stabilizing a notoriously reactive carbene molecule in water, validating a decades-old theory about vitamin B1 and offering a greener path for chemical manufacturing.

Chemists have successfully generated an unstable molecule in water, a feat once believed to be impossible.

Chemists have confirmed a 67-year-old theory about vitamin B1 by stabilizing a highly reactive molecule in water, a breakthrough that was long considered impossible. This discovery not only resolves a long-standing biochemical question but also paves the way for more sustainable and efficient methods of producing pharmaceuticals.

The molecule involved is a carbene, a form of carbon atom with only six valence electrons instead of the usual eight. This electron deficiency makes carbenes extremely unstable and reactive, especially in water, where they typically break down almost immediately. However, for decades, scientists have suspected that vitamin B1, or thiamine, might form a carbene-like intermediate during essential reactions in the body.

Confirming Breslow’s 1958 hypothesis

Now, for the first time, researchers have successfully created a stable carbene in water. They were able to isolate it, seal it in a container, and observe it remaining intact for several months. This achievement is detailed in a new paper published in Science Advances.

“This is the first time anyone has been able to observe a stable carbene in water,” said Vincent Lavallo, a professor of chemistry at UC Riverside and corresponding author of the paper. “People thought this was a crazy idea. But it turns out, Breslow was right.”

The reference is to Ronald Breslow, a Columbia University chemist who proposed in 1958 that vitamin B1 could convert into a carbene to drive biochemical transformations in the body. Breslow’s idea was compelling, but carbenes were so unstable, especially in water, that no one could prove they actually existed in a biological setting.

Shielding the carbene for stability

Lavallo’s team succeeded by wrapping the carbene in what he calls “a suit of armor,” a molecule they synthesized in the laboratory that shields the reactive center from water and other molecules. The resulting structure is stable enough to be studied with nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy and x-ray crystallography, providing conclusive evidence that carbenes like this can exist in water.

“We were making these reactive molecules to explore their chemistry, not chasing a historical theory,” said first author Varun Raviprolu, who completed the research as a graduate student at UCR and is now a postdoctoral researcher at UCLA. “But it turns out our work ended up confirming exactly what Breslow proposed all those years ago.”

Toward greener pharmaceutical chemistry

Beyond confirming a biochemical hypothesis, the discovery has practical implications. Carbenes are often used as “ligands,” or support structures, in metal-based catalysts — the chemical workhorses used to produce pharmaceuticals, fuels, and other materials. Most of these processes rely on toxic organic solvents. The researchers’ method of stabilizing carbenes in water could help make those reactions cleaner, less expensive, and safer.

“Water is the ideal solvent — it’s abundant, non-toxic, and environmentally friendly,” Raviprolu said. “If we can get these powerful catalysts to work in water, that’s a big step toward greener chemistry.”

Mimicking cell chemistry in the lab

Knowing that such reactive intermediate molecules can be generated and survive in water also brings scientists one step closer to mimicking the kind of chemistry that happens naturally in cells, which are mostly made of water.

“There are other reactive intermediates we’ve never been able to isolate, just like this one,” Lavallo said. “Using protective strategies like ours, we may finally be able to see them and learn from them.”

For Lavallo, who has spent two decades designing carbenes, the moment is both professional and personal.

“Just 30 years ago, people thought these molecules couldn’t even be made,” he said. “Now we can bottle them in water. What Breslow said all those years ago — he was right.”

For Raviprolu, the discovery serves as a reminder to persevere in scientific research and discovery.

“Something that seems impossible today might be possible tomorrow, if we continue to invest in science,” he said.

Reference:

"Confirmation of Breslow’s hypothesis: A carbene stable in liquid water”

by Varun Tej Raviprolu, Aaron Gregory, Isaac Banda, Scott G. McArthur, Sarah E. McArthur, William A. Goddard III, Charles B. Musgrave III and Vincent Lavallo, 11 April 2025, Science Advances.

DOI: 10.1126/sciadv.adr9681

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TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine; History; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: b1; vitamin

[Deaf Smith]

I like atoms that are reactive and unstable.

Especially if they contain lots of N1.

[Red Badger]

isydt.........................

[Omnivore-Dan]

Sounds great! I wonder how long it will take for some cosmic scientist to figure out a way to turn this into a bio weapon. Seems like every great invention or discovery gets somehow bastardized.

[Carry_Okie]

If the carbene has all these other molecules around it to shield it from the water, is it really in water or is it in a sort of emulsion?

[Getready]

The carbene they made had an adjunctive “protective” molecule...so not a bare naked carbene...there are (from what little I read) other somewhat stable carbenes which are stabilized because the carbene is hooked up in a molecule...in this case it is hooked up also...but it appears to be relatively stable in water (which can make it useful in synthetic chemistry)..No mention of the human toxicity of the chemical “protectors”...how an almost unstable chemical (carbenes)found itself in the biochemical pathways of Vitamin B1 is mind boggling. Where are the genetic instructions that take that consideration into the blueprint for Vitamin B1 biochemistry?

[Red Badger]

In God’s Chemistry 101.......................

[subterfuge]

Who believes “scientists” anymore?

[GreatRoad]

Good point.

[nwrep]

Varun Tej Raviprolu

Say what?

[Red Badger]

John Smith in India................

[shotgun]

[Getready]

Sure seems like it.
When the chemists first synthesized urea, they thought that every chemical related to life could be easily synthesized. They didn’t know enough to know how many unstable or complex entities could be synthesized at once, at room temperature, and shepherded around the cell, in a space much smaller than the average size of a period ending a sentence(written with a graphite pencil).

[If You Want It Fixed - Fix It]

Just because everyone tells you that you are crazy, does not mean they know any better.

Look at the media and maga...

God and his followers...

Climate nutcases/media and the normal thinking.

[sauropod]

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