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Driving Without a Driver License

Posted on 04/30/2025 8:40:53 AM PDT by bluescape

A lot of X videos show cars stopped by police for various reasons where the drivers says they don't have to have a driver's license. Some say they are traveling not driving or something similar. They might add 'it's common law that you can drive without a license.

Besides the reason for being stopped like being drunk or speeding, and even besides being uncooperative and belligerent cause they might have drugs on them, are they right about not being required to have a driver's license?

I"m in Oklahoma and I thought it was widely known that you better have your license and registration on you as well as proof of insurance if you're pulled over.

Maybe the laws changed or differ from state to state.

Are these 'travelers' without a license right? Much of the time they don't want to give their name or other info that would be included on a license. Usually if your watching the video on X their claim isn't doing them any good since they're getting arrested.


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KEYWORDS: driving; police; vanity

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1 posted on 04/30/2025 8:40:53 AM PDT by bluescape
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To: bluescape

Some of them claim to be free travelers.

The officer in question could impound your car if you cannot convince him that you have a license and are insured. Sometimes, especially in smaller centres, the officer might give you 24 hours to produce a license.


2 posted on 04/30/2025 8:43:08 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If the life of a fish is as valuable as a human, why can't humans eat fish when fish eat fish?.)
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To: bluescape

THEY ARE PLAYING THE GAME OF BEING A “SOVEREIGN CITIZEN”.

THEY WILL LOSE IN COURT OF THEY ARE IN AN ACCIDENT


3 posted on 04/30/2025 8:44:05 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: bluescape

Driving is considered a privilege, not a constitutional right, in the United States. While the Constitution protects the fundamental right to travel, this doesn’t inherently include the right to drive a motor vehicle. States regulate driving through licensing to ensure public safety, which is why it’s classified as a privilege.
The argument about “traveling” versus “driving” often comes from a misinterpretation of legal principles. Courts have consistently upheld that operating a motor vehicle on public roads requires a valid license, as it’s subject to state regulation for the greater good of public safety, i.e. to keep the intoxicated, non-skilled off the road.


4 posted on 04/30/2025 8:44:34 AM PDT by RBStealth (-- raised by wolves, educated by nuns)
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To: bluescape

I’ve seen a lot of those YouTube videos, they claim to be sovereign citizens not subject to laws of the area they are “traveling” through instead of driving, they get sucked in by some YouTube person selling the idea and certain people buy in which always ends up with them getting dragged out of the car usually with the window smashed


5 posted on 04/30/2025 8:45:43 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: bluescape

The whole Sovereign Citizen scam is gobbledegook. Good way to win a pair of steel bracelets.


6 posted on 04/30/2025 8:47:00 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

sovereign citizen —> no pay taxes
look up wesley snipes


7 posted on 04/30/2025 8:51:40 AM PDT by RBStealth (-- raised by wolves, educated by nuns)
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To: RBStealth

Well the unskilled drivers are everywhere. Huge number on the road are incapable of operating a MV in anything other than ideal conditions.


8 posted on 04/30/2025 8:53:07 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: bluescape
I used to know someone who drove without his license on him.

When pulled over, he stated his name and the license number he had memorized. The cop had to write it down and look it up on the computer or call it in.

Somewhat obnoxious, but if the requirement is "have a valid license" vs. "must carry it" he could not be cited for failure to have a valid license.

9 posted on 04/30/2025 8:53:33 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Another recycled scam is one where it is claimed that payment of the Federal income tax is voluntary. This particular belief put Irwin Schiff, a tax protester and father of economist Peter Schiff, in prison for 13 years, where he died. I dislike the income tax as much as the sovereign citizens dislike drivers’ licenses, but Federal, state, and local LEOs have guns, handcuffs, and the keys to the jailhouse.
10 posted on 04/30/2025 8:53:39 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: DariusBane

you must have restless finger syndrome


11 posted on 04/30/2025 8:55:35 AM PDT by RBStealth (-- raised by wolves, educated by nuns)
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To: bluescape

I could be wrong, but wasn’t Timothy McVey pulled over because he didn’t think he needed to have license plates?


12 posted on 04/30/2025 8:55:36 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: ridesthemiles
THEY WILL LOSE IN COURT OF THEY ARE IN AN ACCIDENT

What about the Pee Wee Herman defense?


13 posted on 04/30/2025 8:57:11 AM PDT by gundog (The ends justify the mean tweets. )
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To: bluescape
If the car is registered in your name, the cop already has your driver's license, including your photo, on the computer screen in his car.

Cops use the plate readers to identify cars registered to drivers who have outstanding warrants, especially for accumulating fines. Yes, they run the plate without a warrant. They can even set the program to not bother flagging a plate attached to a driver with let's say, less than $1,000 in outstanding fines. If the image on the computer screen looks like the driver, they'll pull you over because their municipality/agency gets a significant cut of the revenue.

If the picture on their computer screen doesn't match the driver, they likely won't risk pulling them over because they had no probable cause and again, they have no warrant.

If you don't have your license on you, and are not the registered owner of the vehicle, they can run your name and address which will show your photo as well as if you have any warrants. They don't like to be inconvenienced but they can't charge you for driving without a license when they had all the information at their fingertips.

14 posted on 04/30/2025 8:57:53 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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“No comprende English gringo. Asylum.”

That works in sanctuary states.

But every state I have ever lived in requires a driver’s license, Insurance, and registration to be produced while driving on public roads. It’s part of the civil code, or criminal code depending.


15 posted on 04/30/2025 8:58:35 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: bluescape

On the police show ‘On Patrol: Live’ people are pulled over in nearly every episode who don’t have a driver’s license or insurance. The police can check DMV records to see if the driver has a license — if they can positively identify them by other means.


16 posted on 04/30/2025 8:58:46 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: bluescape

I always thought driver’s licenses were stupid anyway. The test (in the U.S., not in Europe) is a joke. If you just allowed anyone over 18 to drive at will, I doubt you’d notice any real difference in the crash statistics.


17 posted on 04/30/2025 8:58:48 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: srmanuel

“...which always ends up with them getting dragged out of the car usually with the window smashed.”

Asked a cop friend once what happens when she runs into the ‘sovereign citizen’ types on traffic stops. Her response: “Oh, they always get arrested.”


18 posted on 04/30/2025 9:01:29 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity ("...for the sake of His name." Psalm 23:3)
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To: bluescape

Thus, future DLs will be coded to your vehicle?


19 posted on 04/30/2025 9:01:53 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: bluescape

You’ll lose and they’ll win if it comes to that.


20 posted on 04/30/2025 9:04:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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