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Female Black Hawk Pilot Who Crashed Into Airliner Made Multiple Mistakes: Report
Liberty Daily ^ | 4-27-25 | Publius

Posted on 04/27/2025 12:59:27 PM PDT by Strict9

The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach. He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank,” the Times reported.

“Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet. She did not turn left,” the report stated.

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TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: aviation; crash; dei; piloterror
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To: tumblindice
but I’d think if you are the pilot using your instruments

If you have NVGs, you aren't 'using instruments'. The only 'instrument' is the radalt set @ 215' and you keep the red light on. Easily monitored in your scan.

81 posted on 04/27/2025 5:19:02 PM PDT by xone ( )
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To: HerrBlucher

Third person was the crewchief.


82 posted on 04/27/2025 5:19:41 PM PDT by xone ( )
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To: xone

Unless they are required to be stupid subject to DEI goals.


83 posted on 04/27/2025 5:21:25 PM PDT by Reily
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To: alternatives?

She was above for far longer than that, else the Instructor wouldn’t have had to prompt her. She was way over 200’ @ impact.


84 posted on 04/27/2025 5:21:27 PM PDT by xone ( )
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To: Reily

We had people like this flying in our squadron, and by that I mean are ‘augments’ people who don’t work @ the unit day to day but the unit is tasked with their minimums. Never would this dope have gotten a second flight. Dabbler.


85 posted on 04/27/2025 5:27:40 PM PDT by xone ( )
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To: xone

A day after the crash there was a map of the course and heights of both flights. The helicopter was at 200 until less than 60 seconds before the crash.


86 posted on 04/27/2025 5:27:48 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: MinorityRepublican

They have already closed the conflicting route.


87 posted on 04/27/2025 5:28:21 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: alternatives?

60 seconds, a full minute over the route ceiling. @ a 120 kts, that would’ve made her over the ceiling since they had entered over the river.


88 posted on 04/27/2025 5:30:05 PM PDT by xone ( )
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To: VTenigma
They have already closed the conflicting route.

That's a start. There needs to be more restrictions.

89 posted on 04/27/2025 5:33:38 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: TexasGator

“ What orders did she not follow?”

The ones from the tower, Skippy.

L


90 posted on 04/27/2025 5:59:36 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: alternatives?

Nobody in that aircraft TOOK
Evasive Action...
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Sad really
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RIP


91 posted on 04/27/2025 6:02:58 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: TexasGator
sorry it was "pass behind" at 9:44 in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mAUks0krI

92 posted on 04/27/2025 6:31:06 PM PDT by KTM rider (my thinking has made a tmajor paradigm shift since 2020, I no longer know what to believe )
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To: Big Red Badger

I am not sure how easy it is to “take over” controls of a helicopter. Are their two control sticks? If two people are switching between one stick that could cause troubles in terms of speed and height. Think of two people trying to switch steering a car at the same time.


93 posted on 04/27/2025 6:57:06 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: knarf

LOL, yeah , “pass behind flight XXXX “ means let them go first ( a vague generic command), but that assumes the helicopter has a good visual on the correct target, IMO a better command would have been to “slow airspeed to XXX until flight XXX passes” ( a Blackhawk can slow down pretty fast, it had six miles to react and didn’t need to be going as fast as it was on a vector path with a landing jet


94 posted on 04/27/2025 7:11:53 PM PDT by KTM rider (my thinking has made a tmajor paradigm shift since 2020, I no longer know what to believe )
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95 posted on 04/27/2025 7:14:46 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (She hails from the Slave Masters - A family of Sugar Plantation Oligarchs)
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To: alternatives?
the pedals and stick operate simultaneous at each seat, the stronger person would win in a fight over control.

When riding front seat of the Bell 206 I was away from the controls moving in front of me by the pilot in the other seat until instructed to take control for a minute

96 posted on 04/27/2025 7:25:22 PM PDT by KTM rider (my thinking has made a tmajor paradigm shift since 2020, I no longer know what to believe )
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To: alternatives?

and a Quik “Rock-Paper-Scissors” ?


97 posted on 04/27/2025 8:07:10 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: DesertRhino

I agree 100% with your post. Spot on. BTTT.


98 posted on 04/27/2025 9:47:25 PM PDT by vpintheak (Screw the ChiComms! America first!)
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To: Strict9

Missteps, Equipment Problems and a Common but Risky Practice Led to a Fatal Crash

New details revealed by The Times show that the failures on Jan. 29 before an Army helicopter crashed into a jet near Reagan National Airport were far more complex than previously known.

https://archive.is/23Uv1


99 posted on 04/27/2025 10:17:23 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: TexasGator
"She was PIC. There was no instructor aboard."

Complete non sequitur. It was an evaluation flight and all army check pilots are also instructor pilots. Instructor pilots log IP time even if someone else is PIC.

100 posted on 04/27/2025 10:25:59 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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