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We Now Know How AI ‘Thinks’—and It’s Barely Thinking at All
Wall Street Journal ^ | 04/26/2025 | Story by Christopher Mims

Posted on 04/26/2025 5:45:57 PM PDT by Lazamataz

The big names in artificial intelligence—leaders at OpenAI, Anthropic, Google and others—still confidently predict that AI attaining human-level smarts is right around the corner. But the naysayers are growing in number and volume. AI, they say, just doesn’t think like us.

The work of these researchers suggests there’s something fundamentally limiting about the underlying architecture of today’s AI models. Today’s AIs are able to simulate intelligence by, in essence, learning an enormous number of rules of thumb, which they selectively apply to all the information they encounter.

This contrasts with the many ways that humans and even animals are able to reason about the world, and predict the future. We biological beings build “world models” of how things work, which include cause and effect.

Many AI engineers claim that their models, too, have built such world models inside their vast webs of artificial neurons, as evidenced by their ability to write fluent prose that indicates apparent reasoning. Recent advances in so-called “reasoning models” have further convinced some observers that ChatGPT and others have already reached human-level ability, known in the industry as AGI, for artificial general intelligence.

For much of their existence, ChatGPT and its rivals were mysterious black boxes.

There was no visibility into how they produced the results they did, because they were trained rather than programmed, and the vast number of parameters that comprised their artificial “brains” encoded information and logic in ways that were inscrutable to their creators. But researchers are developing new tools that allow them to look inside these models. The results leave many questioning the conclusion that they are anywhere close to AGI.

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Interesting development(s). AGI seems fairly far away after all, which corresponds to my experience with LLM codegen. It can handle the smallest tasks, but anything weighty, and it falters. Hallucinations of objects or functions that do not exist, failure to follow my instructions... you name it, the thing just doesn't operate as well as advertised.

I expect a long period of time where senior- and mid-level developers and computer analysts will still be in high demand.

1 posted on 04/26/2025 5:45:57 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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2 posted on 04/26/2025 5:47:53 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: Lazamataz

Having said that, millions of jobs are about checklists, which is what AI excels at. It doesn’t need any real intelligence to keep checking off a or b all day long and replace millions of workers in the process.


3 posted on 04/26/2025 5:49:47 PM PDT by Jonty30 (I can promise I can land any plane that is in the air, because gravity only moves in one direction.)
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To: Lazamataz

AI doesn’t think, but it is a very useful tool.


4 posted on 04/26/2025 5:49:51 PM PDT by bankwalker (Feminists, like all Marxists, are ungrateful parasites.)
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To: Lazamataz

If the “aliens” annoying Earth with their inconsiderate light shows really are robot intelligences, maybe they can take over AI for us and usher in a new age for mankind.


5 posted on 04/26/2025 5:51:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Lazamataz
The LLM were trained on fiction. And I do mean that literally. Stolen fiction at that.

Which explains the strange stuff it comes up with.

6 posted on 04/26/2025 5:52:44 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Lazamataz
AI attaining human-level smarts is right around the corner.

Omygosh! I hoped they'd set their sights higher than that.

7 posted on 04/26/2025 5:55:05 PM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: Lazamataz

Give it time. Change may come quicker than expected.

Keep in mind early attempts to build cars, airplanes and non sail powered ships wasn’t very impressive by modern standards.

Pretty much the same for all technology. Breakthroughs often occur in strange ways and at odd times.


8 posted on 04/26/2025 5:55:26 PM PDT by sjmjax
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To: bankwalker
AI doesn’t think, but it is a very useful tool.

I agree with this...though for codegen, not as useful as I would have hoped.

9 posted on 04/26/2025 5:56:00 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: Jonty30
Having said that, millions of jobs are about checklists, which is what AI excels at. It doesn’t need any real intelligence to keep checking off a or b all day long and replace millions of workers in the process.

LLM is also quite skilled at understanding and responding to natural language. People in the Customer Service field are in serious jeopardy.

10 posted on 04/26/2025 5:57:54 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: sjmjax
Give it time. Change may come quicker than expected. Keep in mind early attempts to build cars, airplanes and non sail powered ships wasn’t very impressive by modern standards. Pretty much the same for all technology. Breakthroughs often occur in strange ways and at odd times.

My response?

Instant gratification takes too long.

11 posted on 04/26/2025 5:58:39 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: Lazamataz

I know of some people with “artificial general intelligence”. All are liberals.


12 posted on 04/26/2025 5:58:46 PM PDT by McGruff (Biden will go down in history as the worst president ever.)
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To: Texas Eagle
"AI attaining human-level smarts is right around the corner."

Omygosh! I hoped they'd set their sights higher than that.

I know, right?

Look at the bright side: At least they are not trying to generate liberal-level intelligence. 😂😂😂

13 posted on 04/26/2025 6:00:14 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I'm so on fire that I feel the need to stop, drop, and roll!)
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To: Lazamataz

AI as a tool will be operationally important, but the question also arises in speculative fiction, especially sci fi.

I instinctively start with the fact that a robot or android, even with very sophisticated programming, would have/could have no real understanding of pain.

Or humor. Or any other organic, emotional or spiritual reaction.

The AI could have a set of programed responses to mimic human behavior, but there is no real mind-body-soul connection. As we have discussed before.

We do not really understand this about ourselves ... and then there’s are the sociopaths.


14 posted on 04/26/2025 6:08:26 PM PDT by sphinx
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Look at the bright side: At least they are not trying to generate liberal-level intelligence

That's what the government schools main focus is all about.

Two plus two can equal five, as long as your pronouns are all arranged, and you are convinced that the Globull Hoax is real.

15 posted on 04/26/2025 6:10:07 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Lazamataz

I don’t think there is much to AI, at least for now.

If anyone knows how to do it, have AI write a new, good country music song and post it on this thread.

I am talking about a sure enough good country music song, not more of the stuff Nashville has been churning out for the past decade.


16 posted on 04/26/2025 6:16:16 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: bankwalker

GEMINI

Calculate the value of $7 per day for 10 years assuming a 4% interest rate per year

Okay, let’s figure out the future value of saving $7 per day for 10 years with a 4% annual interest rate. Since the contributions are made daily, we should consider the compounding effect more frequently than annually.
Here’s how we can approach this:
1. Calculate the total number of contributions:
* Number of years = 10
* Days per year = 365
* Total number of contributions = 10 \times 365 = 3650
2. Calculate the daily interest rate:
* Annual interest rate = 4% = 0.04
* Daily interest rate (approximately) = \frac{0.04}{365} \approx 0.000109589
3. Use the future value of an ordinary annuity formula:
Since the $7 is saved at the end of each day, this is an ordinary annuity. The formula for the future value of an ordinary annuity is:
FV = P \times \frac{(1 + r)^n - 1}{r}
Where:
* FV = Future Value
* P = Periodic Payment ($7)
* r = Interest rate per period (daily rate \approx 0.000109589)
* n = Total number of periods (3650)
4. Plug in the values and calculate:
FV = 7 \times \frac{(1 + 0.000109589)^{3650} - 1}{0.000109589}
FV = 7 \times \frac{(1.000109589)^{3650} - 1}{0.000109589}
FV \approx 7 \times \frac{1.491756 - 1}{0.000109589}
FV \approx 7 \times \frac{0.491756}{0.000109589}
FV \approx 7 \times 4487.28
FV \approx 31410.96
Therefore, saving $7 per day for 10 years at a 4% annual interest rate would result in approximately $31,410.96.


17 posted on 04/26/2025 6:26:21 PM PDT by TexasGator (1'11.'11/'~~'111./.)
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To: Lazamataz

Not really.

They are awful.

I insist they forward my call to a human.


18 posted on 04/26/2025 6:28:13 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: TexasGator

Very good ... A useful tool indeed ... How long did that take?


19 posted on 04/26/2025 6:30:13 PM PDT by bankwalker (Feminists, like all Marxists, are ungrateful parasites.)
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To: Lazamataz

garbage in = garbage out.

AI is BS


20 posted on 04/26/2025 6:33:09 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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