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Except gas is down to $2.89/gal in Florida
1 posted on 04/22/2025 12:28:42 PM PDT by Bobbyvotes
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I’m also willing to pay for the convenience, not have to worry about it catching fire in my garage, not have to worry about range, not have to worry about replacing a rather expensive battery, not have to pay the higher insurance costs and faster tire wear.

Etc.

I was a fan of electric cars back in the late 70’s when I raced 1/12 scale cars. It seemed a lot better than gas. But economies of scale kicked in. e.g. it’s why large vehicles don’t do well with CVT’s, but they’re great for golf carts, etc.


2 posted on 04/22/2025 12:33:38 PM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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I didn’t see any inclusion of towing charges when the EV runs out of juice 40 miles from a charger!


3 posted on 04/22/2025 12:33:46 PM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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Toyota Camrys are also available in light-hybrid models (no external charging), and I know that they get close to 45-50 mpg.

EVs might work if you're close to home but take them out on the road and you're inconvenienced trying to find a charging station. Plus, the EVs miles per charge are based on ideal conditions. Excessive heat, cold, snow, or hilly terrain, and you'll get less than "average" mileage.

5 posted on 04/22/2025 12:38:00 PM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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The Camry will start in the morning.


6 posted on 04/22/2025 12:39:58 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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Tesla Model S new, $79,500

Loaded Camry $34,900

Over loan term of 5 years, $743/mo more for the Tesla


7 posted on 04/22/2025 12:39:59 PM PDT by EERinOK
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The tesla has shit resale and repairs are through the roof. Try to take a 1000 mile trip.


8 posted on 04/22/2025 12:41:06 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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For those who don’t live in California (the vast majority of us), gas is $2.40/gallon. A small price to pay for the autonomy and freedom to travel when we want and where we want.


10 posted on 04/22/2025 12:41:41 PM PDT by con-surf-ative
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Not in Hawaii!
Thanks to Democrats, my electric bill averages $0.55 per kWh!


11 posted on 04/22/2025 12:44:24 PM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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1. 100 miles per day/ 36,500 miles per year is pretty high for most car owners.

2. After three years what is the original cost vs the trade-in value of the two cars?

3. What is the insurance cost of the two cars?

4. How many years/miles before a Tesla battery needs replacemnt?


13 posted on 04/22/2025 12:46:59 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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They’ll figure it out someday.

Right now its not feasible to go electric.

I see hybrids more in the future untill they figure it out.


15 posted on 04/22/2025 12:49:42 PM PDT by crz
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Another consideration is that many EVs are designed for cities and towns. This way there is plenty of opportunities for the regenerative braking to help charge the battery. Out on a highway, gas vehicles have an advantage.

I almost nearly rent a Nissan Altima when I travel. Great gas mileage, don’t have to worry about finding a charging station, and decent room since I usually travel alone on business. I’ve rented and had a few EVs and just don’t like them. I am curious though about how hydrogen engines when they become more mainstream.


17 posted on 04/22/2025 12:50:43 PM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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Predictable commute + garage charger + owning a second gas powered car = electric success. I have a co-worker that lives far from work who claims he saves about $250 a month in gas since he bought a Tesla. Electric motors are superior to gasoline engines for vehicles but the refueling is not yet practical for several critical situations. There are many, myself included, for whom electric makes sense, it was only a problem when the gov tried to ram them down everyone else’s throat.


19 posted on 04/22/2025 12:52:10 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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You need to calculate cost per mile over maybe 10 years or the life of the vehicle. The amount you pay for electricity to recharge the battery can also vary a lot. At some charging stations the refueling cost will be similar to gasoline.


21 posted on 04/22/2025 12:54:35 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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100 miles a day is about 3 times the average


25 posted on 04/22/2025 12:59:26 PM PDT by brookwood (51 Intelligence Agents Say Global Warming Is An Existential Crisis)
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HOW ARE YOU CALCULATING THE POWER COSTS???


26 posted on 04/22/2025 1:00:29 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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And the initial outlay for the vehicle itself is more for the Tesla. Not sure about insurance costs and repair costs.

So overall, it may be a wash if you keep the Tesla long enough.


34 posted on 04/22/2025 1:13:29 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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It’s only 2.98 in my corner of AZ..


35 posted on 04/22/2025 1:13:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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I just rented a ‘25 hybrid Camry for a five day 3000 mile round trip. 40 mpg, plenty of power, comfortable. I did KC to SLC in a long 18-hour shot without much trouble. Loved it.

Betcha that’s not possible with an electric. You can’t make 10 minute potty/gas stops.


37 posted on 04/22/2025 1:14:16 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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Except the Tesla costs twice as much as the Camry.


39 posted on 04/22/2025 1:15:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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the stolen childhood of all those who mine the rare earth minerals for EV production? priceless.


42 posted on 04/22/2025 1:18:31 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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