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Real ID wouldn't be needed if state systems weren't so corrupted with illegals
American Thinker ^

Posted on 04/13/2025 7:00:03 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

It may be setting the stage to eliminate voter fraud by illegals and scammers. Use this as a basis for voting and it can only improve the troubled and fraud-filled voter databases that fill BLUE state voter rolls.

I have a natural aversion to this sort of seemingly intrusive verification of names and federalization of data. But so much scamming has been going on in the state systems that they are untrustworthy in many places. Maybe this is the base move for creating a national voting ID to end fraud in elections.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; elections; fraud; id; scammers; voting
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To: DIRTYSECRET

RealID will be corrupt as any other one. Illegals can get a driver’s license out here in CaCaLand. A RealID simply needs another check on “home” address. It means nothing.
The only advantage is that more info is digitized so Tech companies can sell more CCP-controlled digital crappola. Like Dominion voting machines or the crappy laptops handed out in schools at taxpayer expense.

Saying that it is convenient when crossing into another state is asinine. Within the US no such document is or should ever be necessary. Go this route and you are signing into 15-minute cities crappola.


41 posted on 04/13/2025 9:14:41 AM PDT by bobbo666
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Seems the dems wanted open borders so they would have millions of illegals voting the dem ticket but forgot ids may be required. Typical shorted sightedness by the dems.


42 posted on 04/13/2025 9:17:59 AM PDT by chopperk (airhiger)
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To: Bob434

“ I had so many breaks by cops growing up- serious breaks too- Cops back then, at least in our town, were more like extended fathers or friends who tried to keep folks on the straight and narrow without fining them.”

I grew up in Brooklyn. We knew all the cops walking the beat in the hood and they not only knew us, but knew our parents. They came to our cook-outs and even coached teams we played on. If we got in trouble we usually got a choice. Hard punch in the arm or a smack to the head. If someone did something stupid like break into a car, you were spending the night at the 61, but not being placed in the system. That was usually followed up with the officer talking to the parent in addition to the customary smack to the head.

FAFO was a choice that became something me and my friends understood.


43 posted on 04/13/2025 9:24:30 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Proud Member of the Anti-Fancy party since March 2025)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

How do we know “Real ID” will not be corrupted? I think you get it at the DMV. What’s to stop Newsom’s DMV from issuing “Real ID”s to illegal aliens?


44 posted on 04/13/2025 9:26:56 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The Democratic party must be destroyed.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

RealID isn’t needed. Remember this was all part of 9-11, and some fools saying the state IDs are too hard to tell if they’re real, so we need “a standard”. And 24 years we’re finally going to get it. Kind of. At least if you want to board plane. But it’s not going to solve ANYTHING else. It’s not really even going to solve what it was supposed to solve.


45 posted on 04/13/2025 9:27:56 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I got my real ID about six months ago. The woman at the DMV didn’t question anything and all I had to do to “prove” I was a citizen is check a box on the touch screen. And once that happens you are automatically registered to vote. Real ID is a joke. Just another scam to register illegals to vote for democrats.


46 posted on 04/13/2025 9:38:03 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: discostu

“RealID isn’t needed. Remember this was all part of 9-11”

Yep absolutely. And it WILL NOT stop voter fraud. In fact it is your information going into yet ANOTHER database that can be hacked and your identity stolen. It in it’s self is an additional security risk.

As it is the Social Security mandated “ID.me” electronic verification is a huge international security risk on cloud servers around the world. AND it is tied directly to Google and other 3rd party “marketing” services...

It is owned and maintained by a private third party marketing firm in the UK. They should have absolutely NOTHING to do with our U.S. government affairs let alone citizen identification databases. And ID.me is a facial recognition database going into a global database.

ID.me is a huge National Security risk!


47 posted on 04/13/2025 9:53:34 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: discostu

What I’ve never understood ,is what verifying ID, or standardizing ID,s have to do with trying to prevent another September 11th.

Mohammad Atta and his boys were all foreign nationals. As such, their ID would have been their passports.

I know the Real ID act was based on a recommendation of the 9/11 commission. Maybe there are some other reasons why it’s good for states to standardize how they issue drivers licenses.

You wonder about the urgency of it as well. It took over twenty years to fully implement this.


48 posted on 04/13/2025 9:54:16 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

You’re guess is as good as mine on that. Really like everything else that happened in reaction to 9-11 it’s really just the government saying “we’d like some more power please”.

I mean there are actually good reasons for states to standardize. I live in AZ which half the country thinks are fake IDs because they’re good until you’re 65, so any cop that’s never seen an AZ ID, especially if you’re young, looks at an ID with an expiration date of 2067 and looks at you like you’re the dumbest criminal in the world. (of course now that I’m 55 not so much, woh, it just dawned on me that I’m now old enough that my 2034 license expiration is no longer dumb) So I get that standards aren’t a bad thing, but, of course, the American government never even tried to do it in a smart or useful way.


49 posted on 04/13/2025 10:07:05 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Where I live it’s harder to get a passport than a Real ID.


50 posted on 04/13/2025 10:08:08 AM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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To: ChessExpert

Gold star? Are they stupid historically?


51 posted on 04/13/2025 10:11:59 AM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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To: discostu

Mist state IDs have barcodes that can be scanned.


52 posted on 04/13/2025 10:13:58 AM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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To: Fledermaus

It is described as a gold star. Actually, it is a gold circle, hollowed out to show the background as a star.


53 posted on 04/13/2025 10:21:40 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The Democratic party must be destroyed.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Biden enabled hundreds of thousands of illegals get Social Security cards and then get driver’s license so the Real ID is already obselete to stop what it intended.


54 posted on 04/13/2025 10:39:50 AM PDT by odawg
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To: DIRTYSECRET

How about instead of some corporate card ....don’t leave home without it...
why not give those who fit a ‘non-veteran ‘ card, and leave us veterans alone?


55 posted on 04/13/2025 10:40:33 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Fledermaus

Yeah, these days. And they fixed the AZ ID so they just generally look more professional. Back when we first got the “forever” ID they were just good old fashioned laminated things, that looked half fake already. Then you add an expiration 40 years in the future, and my friend who visited his family in NYC had occasional difficulties trying to convince local cops and airline personnel and others that wasn’t a fake ID. Luckily he always succeeded, so they were just funny stories.


56 posted on 04/13/2025 10:45:10 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I’m all for abolishing mail in voting. But nobody should have to wait in line to vote more than an hour. Some have to wait 8 hours. Unsatisfactory!


57 posted on 04/13/2025 11:01:40 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: napscoordinator

It wasn’t so long ago a man would get on his horse and ride the 5 miles into town to vote. The voting rates were higher then. Mighta been the need to get away from the old lady as women weren’t allowed to vote.

I’ve been able to get in and out of a voting booth in 30 seconds. If I can do it anyone should do it in 60. Sample ballots come in the mail beforehand. No reason to not come prepared.


58 posted on 04/13/2025 11:42:54 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I used to rip out the left hand side of the editorial page under “The Chronicle Recommends”. Then I’d vote opposite of what they recommended. Got it right 90% of the time.


59 posted on 04/13/2025 11:45:11 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: butlerweave

And we already do that. Motor voter.


60 posted on 04/13/2025 12:26:00 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymor)
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