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Real ID wouldn't be needed if state systems weren't so corrupted with illegals
American Thinker ^

Posted on 04/13/2025 7:00:03 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

It may be setting the stage to eliminate voter fraud by illegals and scammers. Use this as a basis for voting and it can only improve the troubled and fraud-filled voter databases that fill BLUE state voter rolls.

I have a natural aversion to this sort of seemingly intrusive verification of names and federalization of data. But so much scamming has been going on in the state systems that they are untrustworthy in many places. Maybe this is the base move for creating a national voting ID to end fraud in elections.

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My friends I never liked the idea of a national ID but gaming the system is too easy. Think anchor babies and asylum claims. We just need to get past the poverty pimps who object because their people are too dumb to get one.
1 posted on 04/13/2025 7:00:03 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Count on Rand Paul getting in the way while the lefties giggle. Sarah(outside looking in) is no help either. One can travel within their own country. Just don’t fly.


2 posted on 04/13/2025 7:01:33 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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People should not be allowed to access taxpayer dollars if they are non-citizen, illegal aliens. IDs should be required for everything not just buying beer and cigarettes.


3 posted on 04/13/2025 7:03:03 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemonRATS! The Party of Murderers, Assassins and Baby Killers. )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

They’ll just give the IDs to Illegals


4 posted on 04/13/2025 7:06:11 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I had to get some kind of special license, which of course cost more money, if I 3ver wanted to fly anywhere out of the country, (not that I do) or wanted to head north Into Canada for a day of mental agony (I don’t want to)

Weird that only law abding citizens need ids for thigns like voting, flying etc, but illegals don’t need id’s for practically anything.


5 posted on 04/13/2025 7:07:26 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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Mail-in voting will then be discontinued. We’ve got the majority on ID’ requirements. Let the leftist leaders in congtess shout from the rooftops-alone.


6 posted on 04/13/2025 7:10:43 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

If INDIVIDUALS who were corrupt were prosecuted...


7 posted on 04/13/2025 7:13:17 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The US government controls elections to Congress.

The US government can control the voter database or preferably a single FEC database for Congressional elections.

The US government can by statutory law say Congressional elections cannot physically mingle with any electoral process that fails to restrict its voters to said database or lacks effective voter ID and citizen-only voter verification.


8 posted on 04/13/2025 7:13:46 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Maybe this is the base move for creating a national voting ID to end fraud in elections.

There is a problem with New Yorkers also voting in Florida.

9 posted on 04/13/2025 7:14:29 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I miss the days of a paper driver’s license.

Something I did for about 7 years was never carry a license, if caught for speeding or another traffic violation, when the cop saw that you had forgotten your license he would write you a citation for that and skip the speeding or whatever, so you beat the speeding or U-turn, and then the judge would let you off when you showed him that you had a license but had merely forgotten it that day.

It worked like a charm for years, but times change, with mass immigration a driver’s license started being needed for everything and people and cops got meaner and more formal.


10 posted on 04/13/2025 7:19:55 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: PGalt

**If INDIVIDUALS who were corrupt were prosecuted...**

An ounce of prevention from time to time is easier and more effective.


11 posted on 04/13/2025 7:22:45 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Unfortunately there are democrats at the federal level too, so they’ll just corrupt the national IDs as well.


12 posted on 04/13/2025 7:25:59 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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don’t fool yourself.

dems have been cheating as long as there is power to be had.

which is long before illegals started coming into the country.


13 posted on 04/13/2025 7:31:26 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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It’s the price of freedom. Eternal vigilance.


14 posted on 04/13/2025 7:35:37 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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cops used to be cool- long ago- back in the day- They had to live in the neighboorhoods and understood folks made mistakes- today- nope- no mistakes allowed- unless of course one is an illegal alien-

I had so many breaks by cops growing up- serious breaks too- Cops back then, at least in our town, were more like extended fathers or friends who tried to keep folks on the straight and narrow without fining them- they were more like psychologists than cops lol- BUT- when someone was seriously over the line- they could be pretty brutal and didn’t take any crap from the person- they had a lot less restrictions on how they could interact with the real thugs.


15 posted on 04/13/2025 7:36:32 AM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

If I recall correctly, i think it was around 1996 when they started asking to see an ID to get on an airplane.

So before that year, you did not need to show an ID at all.

I guess we could ask why it is, why did the powers that be, decide we need to show an ID to fly in the first place?

Just an observation, that we all take for granted you need an ID to fly, when that was not always the case.


16 posted on 04/13/2025 7:39:11 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I have a “non-Real” ID for a driver ‘s license, and a U.S. Passport card. That works for all situations without using “Real ID” all the time.


17 posted on 04/13/2025 7:45:08 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Brian Griffin

All ideas to ‘fix’ the demo-commie election fraud plaguing our Republic seem great at first reading, but without serious penalties rapidly applied to the perps, they all fail because gaining power is worth the risk to demo-commies when they don’t get the bark torn off them when they are caught cheating. And I don’t mean just the lower level street-soldiers who take the most risk. The street-soldiers can be promised a nice payday when they get out, to take the risk. I also mean the funders and handlers who stay in the shadows even when the penalties are no more than a few years in prison.


18 posted on 04/13/2025 7:46:17 AM PDT by curious7
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Real ID is bullshit.

It's just a drivers license where you have to actually prove you are who you say you are and you have to have proof that you are an actual US citizen. Like what I and everyone else had to do when I applied for a learner's permit drivers license back when I was 15.

19 posted on 04/13/2025 7:46:47 AM PDT by rdcbn1 (TV )
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Don’t get mad about it.


20 posted on 04/13/2025 7:47:31 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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