Posted on 04/08/2025 3:14:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Grape juice?........
Their muslim masters demand it and the dhimmis comply.
They drank the Kool-aid, now they gotta drink the Kool-aid, at the Aloha Snackbar.
You think French people will give up their wine? Whether they live in France or Belgium?
So is it halal or haram? There will need tp be some sort of definitive ruling by a mullah based on the precise interpretation of the Classical Arabic.
Perhaps not all mullahs will agree and they will fight.
Losing bet
My wife and I are Catholic, and we usually drink non-alcoholic wine. We prefer the real thing, and we would frequently split a bottle with or after dinner, but as we’ve aged we really feel the aftereffects. The non-alcoholic drinks have improved a lot over the last few years, thankfully.
I do agree that it’s really pernicious that there is such a push for Marijuana though. Alcohol may do damage and lead to bad decision-making, but it’s not psychoactive.
There are a few non-alcoholic beers that are tolerable. The non-alcoholic wines I have had on the other hand were horrible. Bad grape juice. What a waste of money.
You should do half and half then. Much better than the non-alcoholic alone, with half the alcohol.
I hear ya. I tried some to scratch my wine itch during Lent. Maybe there is tolerable stuff out there, but the stuff I tried was terrible.
Back 30 years ago, when I was traveling a lot for business in California, I used to stock up on vintage Felton Empire non-alcoholic wines. Gave me something to drink when everyone else was wine drinking. I collected wine for my husband but, as a tee-totaler could only do sniffings, not tastings.
Anyone who thinks Muslims don't drink alcohol has never been to a hotel bar in Dubai or Bahrain.
They probably think Baptists and Mormons don't drink alcohol either.
One can hope.
I remember the old M.A.S.H. book series - novelized the main characters after they came home from Korea. The books were quite funny - there was one Muslim character that was convinced he could drink slivovitz since it was fermented plums, not grapes.
If he just couldn’t drink fermented grapes, why not beer, vodka, or tequila?
I've heard stories from friends deployed there with military. Backroom drinking and card playing out of public view of customers in front. Being ordered to stay on the base when the local muslim hotshot was looking for young boys to molest. It's a culture I choose to avoid.
My sister and brother-in-law took a vacation last year. When the arrived in the Netherlands, they were planning to visit a knitting shop. To start their day, they hit a small cafe for coffee and muffins. As they left the cafe, they were feeling a little "off". More than a little. The muffins contained marijuana. It made for an "interesting" shopping day.
nope... its all age related: many younger people know all alcohol is basically ingesting poison. I live in Europe, and can tell you its an age thing. In France where I holiday, older people still buy incredible amounts of wine, often full shopping carts as they sell it in the supermarkets. Younger people, not at all.
The younger generation in Europe has likely switched to marijuana which is legal in many EU countries.
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