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The Kennedy Assassination And The Persistence Of Conspiracy Theories -- Part III
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 26 Mar, 2025 | Francis Menton

Posted on 03/27/2025 4:30:35 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 03/27/2025 4:30:35 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

For your consideration.


2 posted on 03/27/2025 4:30:48 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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He left out Jacqueline JFKs wife who may have been tired of her husband banging Marilyn Monroe, and anything else in a skirt except Dylan Mulvaney


3 posted on 03/27/2025 4:54:03 AM PDT by Fai Mao (All Democrats need to go to prison.)
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If there are two or more shooters, and only one shooter is exposed and made out to be the bad guy, then there is a conspiracy.

Oswald could not have fired a second accurate shot in 2.3 seconds with a bolt action rifle. Cycling the bolt action to get a new round into the chamber and then reacquiring the target with a scope on a moving target in 2.3 seconds is impossible. This was proven by FBI testing.

He was a marginal shooter scoring only at the marksman level in the corp. The cops could not find any gunshot residue on him. So it’s questionable if Oswald himself actually fired the weapon. He said he was a patsy. If the cleanup man, Jack Ruby, had not have silenced him, there would have been many more leads to investigate leading to the truth.


4 posted on 03/27/2025 5:01:16 AM PDT by redfreedom (Happiness is shopping at Walmart and not hearing Spanish once!)
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To: Fai Mao

He liked blondes, maybe if Jackie had died her hair he would have been faithful.


5 posted on 03/27/2025 5:04:05 AM PDT by redfreedom (Happiness is shopping at Walmart and not hearing Spanish once!)
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If the lone gunmen was the correct & factual reality, then why was the information deemed necessary to trmain a secret for so many decades?

Lies need to be hidden, while the truth needs no reason to be hidden.

The files would have been thrown wide open & available, not withheld for a period of 50 years, and even remained secret beyond that 50 year limit, if the conclusion is the truth. Furthermore, there would be zero reason for redactions 60 years after the fact. What needs to not be revealed?

6 posted on 03/27/2025 5:09:13 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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Conjecturing it a conspiracy rather than a lone wolf/lone gunman because there was so much other activity by people and government(s) is very compelling at first. However, I have heard the coverup type activities ascribed particularly to government as rather predictable, even if it wasn’t a conspiracy, because that’s what a lot of people in power do when they don’t want to be blamed for an incident or problem. If they have the ability to cover their mistakes and hide any associations with people surrounding it, they will. Particularly in a case like the assassination of a popular president. Nobody is going to want that pointing back to them, even in any small way.

However, it’s the gestalt of the whole thing that is so mysterious. The stone-walling, covering up, and burying activity seemed so pervasive both vertically and laterally that it seems almost impossible for it to have been this effective for this long. It can’t be explained by everyone just wanting to disassociate themselves from it.


7 posted on 03/27/2025 5:10:38 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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Personally, I think the whole coverup and veil of secrecy around the JFK assassination has been part of an orchestrated strategy to turn a corrupt mediocrity of a president into a martyr and an iconic historical figure.


8 posted on 03/27/2025 5:24:28 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Well, maybe I'm a little rough around the edges; inside a little hollow.” -- Tom Petty, “Rebels”)
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Oswald was a low level INTEL asset, recruited from the time of his service with the Marines. He learned Russian and worked out of Azuki AFB in Japan who worked with U2s.

Oswald was no dummy and no Commie. Like many before him from the Korean war onwards he was recruited by the CIA to infiltrate the USSR and pose as a Marxist, Communist in order to be considered legit.
He renounced his US citizenship, made many “scenes” when acting with US/FBI officials.
He moved to Russia. The USSR monitored him for years knowing he was a spy. Once he married and KGB honeypot (Marina) he suddenly had had enough of the USSR.
He was paid to return to the USA. Once in the USA he had “Handlers” that guided and followed him eventually to Dallas.

He never visited Mexico City - it was a double photographed by the CIA.

He and Marina were handled by De Mohrenschildt and Ruth Paine, (both worked for the CIA). Marina was kept busy with a Lesbian relationship with Ruth (who filmed her escapades).
Ruth got Oswald a job in the TSBD.
Oslwald di not shoot officer Tippet or JFK.

He acted out his role as a Commie very well and once apprehended was pretty darn cool, calm and collect until he realized he was being set up.

Then, as time passed he said he was “...just the Patsy”...why?

Once he said that, Ruby was ordered to eliminate him.

Once Ruby opened up about the plot, he too was eliminated.

Conspiracy, yes.


9 posted on 03/27/2025 5:29:12 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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I know that I am in the minority on FR, but I believe that Oswald pulled the trigger and that he acted alone.


10 posted on 03/27/2025 5:34:26 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Have you read Roger Stone’s book THE MAN WHO KILLED KENNEDY?

Did you know that Gerald Ford and Arlen Specter were instrumental in browbeating, threatening, and then redacting testimony of anyone who contradicted the “one shooter” scenario?

Did you know the Warren Commission Report doesn’t even have an index?

Srednik is of the opinion this guy is one of them.


11 posted on 03/27/2025 5:43:11 AM PDT by Srednik (Polyglot. Overeducated. Redeemed by Christ. Anticommunist from the womb.)
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Yes all actual evidence clearly points to Oswald alone. In fact it’s perhaps the easiest case to solve in history. Literally several witnesses, it’s laughable to believe anything else.
His wife rejected his last appeal the night before and that was it.
He took the gun to work.
In fact, had marina agreed to a reconciliation on that Thursday night, the shooting may have never happened.

But ignorance always wins. The wild conspiracies are entertaining. And that’s all they are...


12 posted on 03/27/2025 5:44:54 AM PDT by vespa300
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When the perp ends up dead, in police custody, within hours of being arrested…there’s probably more going on than we see.


13 posted on 03/27/2025 5:51:45 AM PDT by TalBlack (Their god is government. Prepare for a religious war.)
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I believe the CIA / mob is most probable. Jack “Ruby” Rubenstein took out the Patsy to dutifully cover the operation


14 posted on 03/27/2025 5:55:04 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: redfreedom

Cycling the bolt action to get a new round into the chamber and then reacquiring the target with a scope on a moving target in 2.3 seconds is impossible. This was proven by FBI testing.


I think you are mistaken. Several tests have been run where people duplicated the fireing times and accuracy with the Carcano/scope setup. I think the best was a mockup done by Rich Davis at or near a Second Chance competition.

One thing most don’t consider is Oswald could have shot left handed and used his right hand to work the bolt. It is a fairly common technique for left handed shooters.


15 posted on 03/27/2025 6:06:10 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Fiji Hill

“I know that I am in the minority on FR, but I believe that Oswald pulled the trigger and that he acted alone.”

And there ain’t no such thing as UFOs either.


16 posted on 03/27/2025 6:19:38 AM PDT by dljordan
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There is always a conspiracy afoot to kill the various leaders in the world. Including the US. I believe, therefore, there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy, but I would not be able to go past this and say who. My thoughts? Oswald acted alone. The Russians would not trust Oswald as the KGB would already know who he was and they would not trust him in anything like an assassination conspiracy. Beyond that I have no idea.

Oswald just happened to be in the place of opportunity and for someone whose life was down the toilet, he saw an opportunity and took it.


17 posted on 03/27/2025 6:29:01 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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Oswald could have cycled the bolt action in that time. They even had a 65 year old weapons expert that was able to do this. That is why he had the sniper’s perch.


18 posted on 03/27/2025 6:30:45 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: redfreedom

And a marginal shooter is called a marksman in the Marines. It was hitting a target at 200 yards over open sights. This was a 68 yard shot.


19 posted on 03/27/2025 6:31:50 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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Oswald shot Tippit. He was seen doing this by a number of people who followed him from the shooting site, to the Texas Theater.


20 posted on 03/27/2025 6:33:54 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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